[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 150, Issue 26

Tue Sep 15 14:47:30 EDT 2015

My Mum trained there.

What should I do?

On 9/14/15, bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com> wrote:
> yeah, i knew Jaz had mentioed Tavistock in another song, but couldn't
> remember which one!
> also, our good friend Mr. Icke talks about them in one of his books...
>
> :)
>
>
>
>
> "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
> postponed indefinitely..."
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I see. Thanks! I am slowly working my way through Jaz's book, but haven't
>> got to that nugget yet. Even for conspiracy theorists, The Tavistock
>> Institute seems an
>> *extremely* unlikely villain, but maybe that's the point, eh. Perhaps
>> they
>> shouldn't have
>> accepted that Rockefeller money in 1946.
>> But the aforementioned John Coleman was the man who thought The Beatles'
>> popularity
>> was an Illuminati plot, so I don't think I'll be looking to him for any
>> rational theories about anything.
>> Still, I shall try and retain an open mind, it's the least I can do.
>> cheers
>> N
>>
>> On 14 September 2015 at 18:01, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Neil, I think the basic theory with the Tavistock Institute `Conspiracy
>>> theories` is that the media is now continually bombarding the general
>>> public with more and more small regular `shocks` so that the general
>>> public
>>> become more
>>> or less punchdrunk and desensitised so they end up just not giving a
>>> fuck
>>> about anything and hence the powers that
>>> be can steamroller ahead with massive changes to society and the average
>>> joe will just not even care.
>>> Bombarding people with Breaking News and ALERTS about things they have
>>> no
>>> control over. Also a lot of people believe that many news
>>> stories-ie-beheadings- are simply staged events. Peruse youtube at your
>>> leisure to see what I mean.
>>> Jaz mentios in his book how he was round Jazz Summers flat- which
>>> happened to be opposite the Tavistock institute in
>>> Swiss Cottage and he was playing the song `Future Shock` and when it got
>>> to the line `You can ask my friends from the
>>> Tavistock` they suddenly became aware of a commotion outside and they
>>> looked out and saw that a fire had just started in the Tavistock
>>> Institute.
>>> He also mentioned in the lecture he did in London recently that he and
>>> Nigel kennedy used to shout out from the window
>>> to the workers there, taking the piss, saying `We know what your doing!`
>>>
>>> Kev
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>>> > Today's Topics:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Re: Pylon on Pledge (Paul)
>>> > 2. Re: "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI (Neil Perry)
>>> > 3. Re: Pylon on Pledge (T.B.)
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 23:26:33 +0100
>>> > From: Paul <dubecho at gmail.com>
>>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
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>>> > Back in the day, when we were all young and to a certain degree stupid
>>> > (speaking for myself anyway ..haha), it was something cool to have, in
>>> > a
>>> > time when vinyl was the only real format, a funky colour looked great
>>> and I
>>> > guess one could have bragging rights or whatever, but with the onset
>>> > of
>>> age
>>> > and the various formats available, I too, could not give a rats ass
>>> > what
>>> > the colour is.
>>> >
>>> > In the context of Killing Joke, I'm just happy they are releasing
>>> anything
>>> > at all. Also, as has been pointed out by others, the colour vinyl, has
>>> > a
>>> > worse audio quality.
>>> >
>>> > I still remember having some funky coloured UK Subs, Skids and Squeeze
>>> > singles. Also a Pistols, Japanese import, of Nevermind The Bollocks,
>>> with
>>> > the cover as the vinyl disc picture, it is now a nice clock ...lol
>>> >
>>> > It must be an age thing, I don't know, but a "Lenticular cover", means
>>> fuck
>>> > all to me either ...lol I just want the music!
>>> >
>>> > dub
>>> >
>>> > On 12 September 2015 at 23:08, Alexander Smith
>>> > <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Am I the only person that really doesn?t care about different
>>> > > colored
>>> > > vinyl?
>>> > >
>>> > > Alex in NYC
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Steve Hackett <
>>> thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > If it isn't the case... In what way is it deluxe??
>>> > >
>>> > > Sent from my iPhone
>>> > >
>>> > > On 12 Sep 2015, at 21:08, Simon Usher <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > *So is the deluxe LP that is on Aamazon not on coloured vinyl and
>>> does not
>>> > > have the lenticular sleeve ?*
>>> > >
>>> > > *Cause it's hell of a lot cheaper than Pledge.*
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > From: planetary at socal.rr.com
>>> > > > To: gathering at misera.net
>>> > > > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:37:36 -0700
>>> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>> > > <gathering-bounces at misera.net>] On Behalf Of Rheinhold
>>> > > > Squeegee wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > FWIW, the "deluxe" LP also has a "lenticular" cover and
>>> "translucent"
>>> > > vinyl.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It would be nice if they included some copies of the deluxe LP in
>>> black
>>> > > > vinyl as an audiophile pressing. I'll be buying both the standard
>>> and
>>> > > > deluxe versions just to get the main album on black vinyl in
>>> hopefully
>>> > > > decent quality. Multiple copies of MMXII I've bought were warped
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > Absolute Dissent just sounds like ass, I have flexidiscs that
>>> > > > sound
>>> > > better.
>>> > > > Basically, I have not been impressed with the quality of the
>>> pressings of
>>> > > > *any* KJ album since Hosannas with the one exception being the "In
>>> Dub"
>>> > > set
>>> > > > which was dead quiet and of really exceptional quality. I think a
>>> lot of
>>> > > it
>>> > > > has to do with the poor quality (various colored) vinyl they've
>>> > > > been
>>> > > using
>>> > > > the past decade.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > T.B.
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>>> > Message: 2
>>> > Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 01:15:28 +0200
>>> > From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
>>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI
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>>> > Was curious about the line 'Tavistock manufactured shocks' in the
>>> > lyric
>>> > video.
>>> >
>>> > First link that comes up is this:
>>> >
>>> > http://ionamiller.weebly.com/tavistock-agenda.html
>>> >
>>> > Psyops, social engineering, mass mind control... suffice to say, it is
>>> > another trip
>>> > through the conspiracy wormhole. Haven't read the whole thing yet but
>>> if you
>>> > scroll down, there is this:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *Former MI6 Intelligence officer John Coleman first exposed their
>>> > covert
>>> > activities with his insider knowledge in The Tavistock Institute of
>>> Human
>>> > Relations: Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political, and
>>> Economic
>>> > Decline of the United States of America: ?The enemy is clearly
>>> identifiable
>>> > as the Committee of 300, the Club of Rome, NATO,the Black Nobility,
>>> > CFR
>>> and
>>> > all of its affiliate organizations, the think tanks, and research
>>> > institutes controlled by Stanford and ? last, but certainly not least,
>>> the
>>> > military establishment.?*
>>> >
>>> > I'm assuming Mr John Coleman is not a relative.
>>> >
>>> > On Wikipedia:
>>> >
>>> > In popular culture the Tavistock Institute is often associated with
>>> > conspiracy theories, the most popular of which link it to The Beatles
>>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles>.
>>> > The *Rough Guide to Conspiracy Theories* notes that the Tavistock
>>> Institute
>>> > has been named by some theorists in their worldviews, including having
>>> > a
>>> > part in "The most extravagant anti-Illuminati conspiracy theory" of
>>> > John
>>> > Coleman "known as [the] 'Aquarian Conspiracy'.
>>> >
>>> > Hmm.
>>> >
>>> > On 12 September 2015 at 12:06, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <
>>> gathering at misera.net
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Yes, spot on.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: Nick Scott <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
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>>> > > >
>>> > > Sent: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:45
>>> > > Subject: Re: [kj] "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI
>>> > >
>>> > > Brilliant heads up...and glaringly shows that KJ should never do
>>> anything
>>> > > without including the brilliance of Mike Coles.
>>> > >
>>> > > On 11 September 2015 at 15:09 Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4wdbibV3IM
>>> > > Killing Joke - I Am The Virus (Lyric Video)
>>> > > Killing Jokes's lyric video for ?I Am The Virus' from the album,
>>> ?Pylon' -
>>> > > available via Spinefarm Records 23rd October 2015. Pre-order the
>>> album &
>>> > > exclusive...
>>> > > Watch now...
>>> > >
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>>> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:24:33 -0700
>>> > From: "T.B." <planetary at socal.rr.com>
>>> > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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>>> > Simon Usher wrote:
>>> >
>>> > So is the deluxe LP that is on Aamazon not on coloured vinyl and does
>>> not
>>> > have the lenticular sleeve ?
>>> > Cause it's hell of a lot cheaper than Pledge.
>>> >
>>> > +++++++++++++++++
>>> >
>>> > I am assuming the two versions of the vinyl album listed on Amazon are
>>> the
>>> > same as what's being offered on Pledge.
>>> >
>>> > Ordering the regular and deluxe vinyl albums and the deluxe cd, at
>>> least for
>>> > us in the USA it comes out to $101.53 on Pledge vs about $140 (using
>>> Global
>>> > Priority shipping) from Amazon UK. Just ordering the Deluxe vinyl
>>> > album
>>> by
>>> > itself compares as $66 via Pledge vs $85 from Amazon (Global
>>> > Priority).
>>> > Using Amazon's Standard shipping cuts it way down to $55.00 but I
>>> > would
>>> > *not* recommend anyone in the US use Amazon UK's standard shipping
>>> > especially for vinyl albums.
>>> >
>>> > A word of caution about ordering from Pledge for those here in the US
>>> > -
>>> > yesterday I tried ordering the two album versions and the deluxe cd
>>> > and
>>> two
>>> > different credit cards wouldn't go through. Within hours, both CC
>>> companies
>>> > called me alerting me to "suspicious activity" due to (my) attempt to
>>> buy
>>> > from the site. Apparently Pledge or whatever business in the UK that
>>> will
>>> > be fulfilling these orders, at least for us in the US is on some sort
>>> > of
>>> > watch list by major CC companies due to numerous fraud complaints and
>>> if you
>>> > want to go ahead and place the order, you need to specifically call
>>> your CC
>>> > company during the week to tell them you want to make a legitimate
>>> purchase
>>> > from that site. I almost simply used my Paypal account but held off
>>> when I
>>> > realized Amazon apparently will carry the same items. What a pain in
>>> > the
>>> > ass.
>>> >
>>> > At this point, I don't know which option I will go for right now - I'm
>>> > holding off for a bit before deciding. I'm pretty confident if I order
>>> from
>>> > Pledge, I will get whatever versions I chose and pay for. However,
>>> > I've
>>> > heard some bad stories about how poorly the last KJ project was
>>> packaged and
>>> > they probably will take forever to get here. My "Down By The River"
>>> CD/DVD
>>> > took about a month from the date it was shipped. Amazon on the other
>>> hand
>>> > may not get a decent allotment of the Deluxe LP resulting in it being
>>> "out
>>> > of stock" right away and shipping everything else regardless. Plus,
>>> > they
>>> > are going to be much more expensive with overseas shipping.
>>> >
>>> > I really hope What Records will carry all the versions as I've always
>>> had
>>> > great service from them.
>>> >
>>> >
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