[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 150, Issue 26

[Neil Perry]

Introduce her to Jaz.

On 15 September 2015 at 20:47, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
wrote:

> My Mum trained there.
>
> What should I do?
>
> On 9/14/15, bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > yeah, i knew Jaz had mentioed Tavistock in another song, but couldn't
> > remember which one!
> > also, our good friend Mr. Icke talks about them in one of his books...
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
> > postponed indefinitely..."
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I see. Thanks! I am slowly working my way through Jaz's book, but
> haven't
> >> got to that nugget yet. Even for conspiracy theorists, The Tavistock
> >> Institute seems an
> >> *extremely* unlikely villain, but maybe that's the point, eh. Perhaps
> >> they
> >> shouldn't have
> >> accepted that Rockefeller money in 1946.
> >> But the aforementioned John Coleman was the man who thought The Beatles'
> >> popularity
> >> was an Illuminati plot, so I don't think I'll be looking to him for any
> >> rational theories about anything.
> >> Still, I shall try and retain an open mind, it's the least I can do.
> >> cheers
> >> N
> >>
> >> On 14 September 2015 at 18:01, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Neil, I think the basic theory with the Tavistock Institute `Conspiracy
> >>> theories` is that the media is now continually bombarding the general
> >>> public with more and more small regular `shocks` so that the general
> >>> public
> >>> become more
> >>> or less punchdrunk and desensitised so they end up just not giving a
> >>> fuck
> >>> about anything and hence the powers that
> >>> be can steamroller ahead with massive changes to society and the
> average
> >>> joe will just not even care.
> >>> Bombarding people with Breaking News and ALERTS about things they have
> >>> no
> >>> control over. Also a lot of people believe that many news
> >>> stories-ie-beheadings- are simply staged events. Peruse youtube at your
> >>> leisure to see what I mean.
> >>> Jaz mentios in his book how he was round Jazz Summers flat- which
> >>> happened to be opposite the Tavistock institute in
> >>> Swiss Cottage and he was playing the song `Future Shock` and when it
> got
> >>> to the line `You can ask my friends from the
> >>> Tavistock` they suddenly became aware of a commotion outside and they
> >>> looked out and saw that a fire had just started in the Tavistock
> >>> Institute.
> >>> He also mentioned in the lecture he did in London recently that he and
> >>> Nigel kennedy used to shout out from the window
> >>> to the workers there, taking the piss, saying `We know what your
> doing!`
> >>>
> >>> Kev
> >>> > From: gathering-request at misera.net
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> >>> > Today's Topics:
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. Re: Pylon on Pledge (Paul)
> >>> > 2. Re: "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI (Neil Perry)
> >>> > 3. Re: Pylon on Pledge (T.B.)
> >>> >
> >>> >
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> >>> >
> >>> > Message: 1
> >>> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 23:26:33 +0100
> >>> > From: Paul <dubecho at gmail.com>
> >>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >>> > <gathering at misera.net>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
> >>> > Message-ID:
> >>> > <CAAAh95gxwAQ5RtEYhkzD7OcN4KtFrnAT+TVK8VpDC=cwHpY6iA at mail.gmail.com>
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> >>> >
> >>> > Back in the day, when we were all young and to a certain degree
> stupid
> >>> > (speaking for myself anyway ..haha), it was something cool to have,
> in
> >>> > a
> >>> > time when vinyl was the only real format, a funky colour looked great
> >>> and I
> >>> > guess one could have bragging rights or whatever, but with the onset
> >>> > of
> >>> age
> >>> > and the various formats available, I too, could not give a rats ass
> >>> > what
> >>> > the colour is.
> >>> >
> >>> > In the context of Killing Joke, I'm just happy they are releasing
> >>> anything
> >>> > at all. Also, as has been pointed out by others, the colour vinyl,
> has
> >>> > a
> >>> > worse audio quality.
> >>> >
> >>> > I still remember having some funky coloured UK Subs, Skids and
> Squeeze
> >>> > singles. Also a Pistols, Japanese import, of Nevermind The Bollocks,
> >>> with
> >>> > the cover as the vinyl disc picture, it is now a nice clock ...lol
> >>> >
> >>> > It must be an age thing, I don't know, but a "Lenticular cover",
> means
> >>> fuck
> >>> > all to me either ...lol I just want the music!
> >>> >
> >>> > dub
> >>> >
> >>> > On 12 September 2015 at 23:08, Alexander Smith
> >>> > <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Am I the only person that really doesn?t care about different
> >>> > > colored
> >>> > > vinyl?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Alex in NYC
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Steve Hackett <
> >>> thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk>
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > If it isn't the case... In what way is it deluxe??
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sent from my iPhone
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 12 Sep 2015, at 21:08, Simon Usher <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > *So is the deluxe LP that is on Aamazon not on coloured vinyl and
> >>> does not
> >>> > > have the lenticular sleeve ?*
> >>> > >
> >>> > > *Cause it's hell of a lot cheaper than Pledge.*
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > From: planetary at socal.rr.com
> >>> > > > To: gathering at misera.net
> >>> > > > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:37:36 -0700
> >>> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> >>> > > <gathering-bounces at misera.net>] On Behalf Of Rheinhold
> >>> > > > Squeegee wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > FWIW, the "deluxe" LP also has a "lenticular" cover and
> >>> "translucent"
> >>> > > vinyl.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > It would be nice if they included some copies of the deluxe LP in
> >>> black
> >>> > > > vinyl as an audiophile pressing. I'll be buying both the standard
> >>> and
> >>> > > > deluxe versions just to get the main album on black vinyl in
> >>> hopefully
> >>> > > > decent quality. Multiple copies of MMXII I've bought were warped
> >>> > > > and
> >>> > > > Absolute Dissent just sounds like ass, I have flexidiscs that
> >>> > > > sound
> >>> > > better.
> >>> > > > Basically, I have not been impressed with the quality of the
> >>> pressings of
> >>> > > > *any* KJ album since Hosannas with the one exception being the
> "In
> >>> Dub"
> >>> > > set
> >>> > > > which was dead quiet and of really exceptional quality. I think a
> >>> lot of
> >>> > > it
> >>> > > > has to do with the poor quality (various colored) vinyl they've
> >>> > > > been
> >>> > > using
> >>> > > > the past decade.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > T.B.
> >>> > > >
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> >>> > Message: 2
> >>> > Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 01:15:28 +0200
> >>> > From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
> >>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >>> > <gathering at misera.net>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [kj] "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI
> >>> > Message-ID:
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> >>> >
> >>> > Was curious about the line 'Tavistock manufactured shocks' in the
> >>> > lyric
> >>> > video.
> >>> >
> >>> > First link that comes up is this:
> >>> >
> >>> > http://ionamiller.weebly.com/tavistock-agenda.html
> >>> >
> >>> > Psyops, social engineering, mass mind control... suffice to say, it
> is
> >>> > another trip
> >>> > through the conspiracy wormhole. Haven't read the whole thing yet but
> >>> if you
> >>> > scroll down, there is this:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > *Former MI6 Intelligence officer John Coleman first exposed their
> >>> > covert
> >>> > activities with his insider knowledge in The Tavistock Institute of
> >>> Human
> >>> > Relations: Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political, and
> >>> Economic
> >>> > Decline of the United States of America: ?The enemy is clearly
> >>> identifiable
> >>> > as the Committee of 300, the Club of Rome, NATO,the Black Nobility,
> >>> > CFR
> >>> and
> >>> > all of its affiliate organizations, the think tanks, and research
> >>> > institutes controlled by Stanford and ? last, but certainly not
> least,
> >>> the
> >>> > military establishment.?*
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm assuming Mr John Coleman is not a relative.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wikipedia:
> >>> >
> >>> > In popular culture the Tavistock Institute is often associated with
> >>> > conspiracy theories, the most popular of which link it to The Beatles
> >>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles>.
> >>> > The *Rough Guide to Conspiracy Theories* notes that the Tavistock
> >>> Institute
> >>> > has been named by some theorists in their worldviews, including
> having
> >>> > a
> >>> > part in "The most extravagant anti-Illuminati conspiracy theory" of
> >>> > John
> >>> > Coleman "known as [the] 'Aquarian Conspiracy'.
> >>> >
> >>> > Hmm.
> >>> >
> >>> > On 12 September 2015 at 12:06, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <
> >>> gathering at misera.net
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Yes, spot on.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > > From: Nick Scott <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
> >>> > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
> >>> gathering at misera.net
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > Sent: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:45
> >>> > > Subject: Re: [kj] "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Brilliant heads up...and glaringly shows that KJ should never do
> >>> anything
> >>> > > without including the brilliance of Mike Coles.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 11 September 2015 at 15:09 Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4wdbibV3IM
> >>> > > Killing Joke - I Am The Virus (Lyric Video)
> >>> > > Killing Jokes's lyric video for ?I Am The Virus' from the album,
> >>> ?Pylon' -
> >>> > > available via Spinefarm Records 23rd October 2015. Pre-order the
> >>> album &
> >>> > > exclusive...
> >>> > > Watch now...
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
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> >>> > Message: 3
> >>> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:24:33 -0700
> >>> > From: "T.B." <planetary at socal.rr.com>
> >>> > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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> >>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
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> >>> > Simon Usher wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > So is the deluxe LP that is on Aamazon not on coloured vinyl and does
> >>> not
> >>> > have the lenticular sleeve ?
> >>> > Cause it's hell of a lot cheaper than Pledge.
> >>> >
> >>> > +++++++++++++++++
> >>> >
> >>> > I am assuming the two versions of the vinyl album listed on Amazon
> are
> >>> the
> >>> > same as what's being offered on Pledge.
> >>> >
> >>> > Ordering the regular and deluxe vinyl albums and the deluxe cd, at
> >>> least for
> >>> > us in the USA it comes out to $101.53 on Pledge vs about $140 (using
> >>> Global
> >>> > Priority shipping) from Amazon UK. Just ordering the Deluxe vinyl
> >>> > album
> >>> by
> >>> > itself compares as $66 via Pledge vs $85 from Amazon (Global
> >>> > Priority).
> >>> > Using Amazon's Standard shipping cuts it way down to $55.00 but I
> >>> > would
> >>> > *not* recommend anyone in the US use Amazon UK's standard shipping
> >>> > especially for vinyl albums.
> >>> >
> >>> > A word of caution about ordering from Pledge for those here in the US
> >>> > -
> >>> > yesterday I tried ordering the two album versions and the deluxe cd
> >>> > and
> >>> two
> >>> > different credit cards wouldn't go through. Within hours, both CC
> >>> companies
> >>> > called me alerting me to "suspicious activity" due to (my) attempt to
> >>> buy
> >>> > from the site. Apparently Pledge or whatever business in the UK that
> >>> will
> >>> > be fulfilling these orders, at least for us in the US is on some sort
> >>> > of
> >>> > watch list by major CC companies due to numerous fraud complaints and
> >>> if you
> >>> > want to go ahead and place the order, you need to specifically call
> >>> your CC
> >>> > company during the week to tell them you want to make a legitimate
> >>> purchase
> >>> > from that site. I almost simply used my Paypal account but held off
> >>> when I
> >>> > realized Amazon apparently will carry the same items. What a pain in
> >>> > the
> >>> > ass.
> >>> >
> >>> > At this point, I don't know which option I will go for right now -
> I'm
> >>> > holding off for a bit before deciding. I'm pretty confident if I
> order
> >>> from
> >>> > Pledge, I will get whatever versions I chose and pay for. However,
> >>> > I've
> >>> > heard some bad stories about how poorly the last KJ project was
> >>> packaged and
> >>> > they probably will take forever to get here. My "Down By The River"
> >>> CD/DVD
> >>> > took about a month from the date it was shipped. Amazon on the other
> >>> hand
> >>> > may not get a decent allotment of the Deluxe LP resulting in it being
> >>> "out
> >>> > of stock" right away and shipping everything else regardless. Plus,
> >>> > they
> >>> > are going to be much more expensive with overseas shipping.
> >>> >
> >>> > I really hope What Records will carry all the versions as I've always
> >>> had
> >>> > great service from them.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
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