[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 150, Issue 26

[bongo]

yeah, i knew Jaz had mentioed Tavistock in another song, but couldn't
remember which one!
also, our good friend Mr. Icke talks about them in one of his books...

:)




"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
postponed indefinitely..."

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see. Thanks! I am slowly working my way through Jaz's book, but haven't
> got to that nugget yet. Even for conspiracy theorists, The Tavistock
> Institute seems an
> *extremely* unlikely villain, but maybe that's the point, eh. Perhaps they
> shouldn't have
> accepted that Rockefeller money in 1946.
> But the aforementioned John Coleman was the man who thought The Beatles'
> popularity
> was an Illuminati plot, so I don't think I'll be looking to him for any
> rational theories about anything.
> Still, I shall try and retain an open mind, it's the least I can do.
> cheers
> N
>
> On 14 September 2015 at 18:01, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Neil, I think the basic theory with the Tavistock Institute `Conspiracy
>> theories` is that the media is now continually bombarding the general
>> public with more and more small regular `shocks` so that the general public
>> become more
>> or less punchdrunk and desensitised so they end up just not giving a fuck
>> about anything and hence the powers that
>> be can steamroller ahead with massive changes to society and the average
>> joe will just not even care.
>> Bombarding people with Breaking News and ALERTS about things they have no
>> control over. Also a lot of people believe that many news
>> stories-ie-beheadings- are simply staged events. Peruse youtube at your
>> leisure to see what I mean.
>> Jaz mentios in his book how he was round Jazz Summers flat- which
>> happened to be opposite the Tavistock institute in
>> Swiss Cottage and he was playing the song `Future Shock` and when it got
>> to the line `You can ask my friends from the
>> Tavistock` they suddenly became aware of a commotion outside and they
>> looked out and saw that a fire had just started in the Tavistock Institute.
>> He also mentioned in the lecture he did in London recently that he and
>> Nigel kennedy used to shout out from the window
>> to the workers there, taking the piss, saying `We know what your doing!`
>>
>> Kev
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>> > Today's Topics:
>> >
>> > 1. Re: Pylon on Pledge (Paul)
>> > 2. Re: "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI (Neil Perry)
>> > 3. Re: Pylon on Pledge (T.B.)
>> >
>> >
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 23:26:33 +0100
>> > From: Paul <dubecho at gmail.com>
>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> > <gathering at misera.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <CAAAh95gxwAQ5RtEYhkzD7OcN4KtFrnAT+TVK8VpDC=cwHpY6iA at mail.gmail.com>
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>> > Back in the day, when we were all young and to a certain degree stupid
>> > (speaking for myself anyway ..haha), it was something cool to have, in a
>> > time when vinyl was the only real format, a funky colour looked great
>> and I
>> > guess one could have bragging rights or whatever, but with the onset of
>> age
>> > and the various formats available, I too, could not give a rats ass what
>> > the colour is.
>> >
>> > In the context of Killing Joke, I'm just happy they are releasing
>> anything
>> > at all. Also, as has been pointed out by others, the colour vinyl, has a
>> > worse audio quality.
>> >
>> > I still remember having some funky coloured UK Subs, Skids and Squeeze
>> > singles. Also a Pistols, Japanese import, of Nevermind The Bollocks,
>> with
>> > the cover as the vinyl disc picture, it is now a nice clock ...lol
>> >
>> > It must be an age thing, I don't know, but a "Lenticular cover", means
>> fuck
>> > all to me either ...lol I just want the music!
>> >
>> > dub
>> >
>> > On 12 September 2015 at 23:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Am I the only person that really doesn?t care about different colored
>> > > vinyl?
>> > >
>> > > Alex in NYC
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Steve Hackett <
>> thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > If it isn't the case... In what way is it deluxe??
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > >
>> > > On 12 Sep 2015, at 21:08, Simon Usher <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > *So is the deluxe LP that is on Aamazon not on coloured vinyl and
>> does not
>> > > have the lenticular sleeve ?*
>> > >
>> > > *Cause it's hell of a lot cheaper than Pledge.*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > From: planetary at socal.rr.com
>> > > > To: gathering at misera.net
>> > > > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:37:36 -0700
>> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
>> > > >
>> > > > Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> > > <gathering-bounces at misera.net>] On Behalf Of Rheinhold
>> > > > Squeegee wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > FWIW, the "deluxe" LP also has a "lenticular" cover and
>> "translucent"
>> > > vinyl.
>> > > >
>> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > > >
>> > > > It would be nice if they included some copies of the deluxe LP in
>> black
>> > > > vinyl as an audiophile pressing. I'll be buying both the standard
>> and
>> > > > deluxe versions just to get the main album on black vinyl in
>> hopefully
>> > > > decent quality. Multiple copies of MMXII I've bought were warped and
>> > > > Absolute Dissent just sounds like ass, I have flexidiscs that sound
>> > > better.
>> > > > Basically, I have not been impressed with the quality of the
>> pressings of
>> > > > *any* KJ album since Hosannas with the one exception being the "In
>> Dub"
>> > > set
>> > > > which was dead quiet and of really exceptional quality. I think a
>> lot of
>> > > it
>> > > > has to do with the poor quality (various colored) vinyl they've been
>> > > using
>> > > > the past decade.
>> > > >
>> > > > T.B.
>> > > >
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>> > Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 01:15:28 +0200
>> > From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>> > Subject: Re: [kj] "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI
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>> > Was curious about the line 'Tavistock manufactured shocks' in the lyric
>> > video.
>> >
>> > First link that comes up is this:
>> >
>> > http://ionamiller.weebly.com/tavistock-agenda.html
>> >
>> > Psyops, social engineering, mass mind control... suffice to say, it is
>> > another trip
>> > through the conspiracy wormhole. Haven't read the whole thing yet but
>> if you
>> > scroll down, there is this:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *Former MI6 Intelligence officer John Coleman first exposed their covert
>> > activities with his insider knowledge in The Tavistock Institute of
>> Human
>> > Relations: Shaping the Moral, Spiritual, Cultural, Political, and
>> Economic
>> > Decline of the United States of America: ?The enemy is clearly
>> identifiable
>> > as the Committee of 300, the Club of Rome, NATO,the Black Nobility, CFR
>> and
>> > all of its affiliate organizations, the think tanks, and research
>> > institutes controlled by Stanford and ? last, but certainly not least,
>> the
>> > military establishment.?*
>> >
>> > I'm assuming Mr John Coleman is not a relative.
>> >
>> > On Wikipedia:
>> >
>> > In popular culture the Tavistock Institute is often associated with
>> > conspiracy theories, the most popular of which link it to The Beatles
>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles>.
>> > The *Rough Guide to Conspiracy Theories* notes that the Tavistock
>> Institute
>> > has been named by some theorists in their worldviews, including having a
>> > part in "The most extravagant anti-Illuminati conspiracy theory" of John
>> > Coleman "known as [the] 'Aquarian Conspiracy'.
>> >
>> > Hmm.
>> >
>> > On 12 September 2015 at 12:06, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <
>> gathering at misera.net
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Yes, spot on.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Nick Scott <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
>> > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
>> gathering at misera.net
>> > > >
>> > > Sent: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:45
>> > > Subject: Re: [kj] "I Am the Virus" lyric video: FYI
>> > >
>> > > Brilliant heads up...and glaringly shows that KJ should never do
>> anything
>> > > without including the brilliance of Mike Coles.
>> > >
>> > > On 11 September 2015 at 15:09 Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4wdbibV3IM
>> > > Killing Joke - I Am The Virus (Lyric Video)
>> > > Killing Jokes's lyric video for ?I Am The Virus' from the album,
>> ?Pylon' -
>> > > available via Spinefarm Records 23rd October 2015. Pre-order the
>> album &
>> > > exclusive...
>> > > Watch now...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:24:33 -0700
>> > From: "T.B." <planetary at socal.rr.com>
>> > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon on Pledge
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>> > Simon Usher wrote:
>> >
>> > So is the deluxe LP that is on Aamazon not on coloured vinyl and does
>> not
>> > have the lenticular sleeve ?
>> > Cause it's hell of a lot cheaper than Pledge.
>> >
>> > +++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> > I am assuming the two versions of the vinyl album listed on Amazon are
>> the
>> > same as what's being offered on Pledge.
>> >
>> > Ordering the regular and deluxe vinyl albums and the deluxe cd, at
>> least for
>> > us in the USA it comes out to $101.53 on Pledge vs about $140 (using
>> Global
>> > Priority shipping) from Amazon UK. Just ordering the Deluxe vinyl album
>> by
>> > itself compares as $66 via Pledge vs $85 from Amazon (Global Priority).
>> > Using Amazon's Standard shipping cuts it way down to $55.00 but I would
>> > *not* recommend anyone in the US use Amazon UK's standard shipping
>> > especially for vinyl albums.
>> >
>> > A word of caution about ordering from Pledge for those here in the US -
>> > yesterday I tried ordering the two album versions and the deluxe cd and
>> two
>> > different credit cards wouldn't go through. Within hours, both CC
>> companies
>> > called me alerting me to "suspicious activity" due to (my) attempt to
>> buy
>> > from the site. Apparently Pledge or whatever business in the UK that
>> will
>> > be fulfilling these orders, at least for us in the US is on some sort of
>> > watch list by major CC companies due to numerous fraud complaints and
>> if you
>> > want to go ahead and place the order, you need to specifically call
>> your CC
>> > company during the week to tell them you want to make a legitimate
>> purchase
>> > from that site. I almost simply used my Paypal account but held off
>> when I
>> > realized Amazon apparently will carry the same items. What a pain in the
>> > ass.
>> >
>> > At this point, I don't know which option I will go for right now - I'm
>> > holding off for a bit before deciding. I'm pretty confident if I order
>> from
>> > Pledge, I will get whatever versions I chose and pay for. However, I've
>> > heard some bad stories about how poorly the last KJ project was
>> packaged and
>> > they probably will take forever to get here. My "Down By The River"
>> CD/DVD
>> > took about a month from the date it was shipped. Amazon on the other
>> hand
>> > may not get a decent allotment of the Deluxe LP resulting in it being
>> "out
>> > of stock" right away and shipping everything else regardless. Plus, they
>> > are going to be much more expensive with overseas shipping.
>> >
>> > I really hope What Records will carry all the versions as I've always
>> had
>> > great service from them.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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