[kj] Killing Joke is not an Industrial band

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Next you'll be telling us they're not goth.



-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 19:14
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke is not an Industrial band


Well, yes and no. The very term "Industrial" comes with specific connotations
regarding instrumentation. If Skinny Puppy recorded an album on acoustic
guitars, it would not be industrial. 

Again, regardless, it has nothing to do
with Killing Joke. 

Alex in NYC 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2015, at
1:26 PM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> That's what
industrial was. Music trends evolve and change...
> 
> On Sat, 25/4/15, Peter
Moltesen <sneakypete at uwclub.net> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke is
not an Industrial band
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2015, 18:10
> 
> For
me, Industrial might
> include Throbbing Gristle & SPK and perhaps the likes
of
> some of the more experimental Krautrock groups (perhaps the
> likes of
Faust, some Kraftwerk, Conrad Schnitzler and
> Einsturzende Neubaten), but
that’s about it!!
> 
> Shouty goth / metal with or
> without drum machines and /
or synths does not equal
> Industrial music
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On Behalf Of Alexander
Smith
> Sent: 25 April
> 2015 15:50
> To: A list about all things
> Killing Joke
(the band!)
> Subject: [kj]
> Killing Joke is not an Industrial band
> 
> I’m
gong to try to revive discussions here,
> as most of the KJ groups on Facebook
are public, and I
> don’t necessarily want to trouble my non-Kj-addicted
>
friends with my Joke-related concerns (more than I already
> do). 
> 
> I’m sure
we’ve
> addressed this at various points in the past, but why are
> Killing Joke
ever cited as “industrial”?
> 
> Maybe sensibility-wise they
> have something in
common, but when it comes to the signature
> trappings of all things Industrial
— whether your
> definition of same stems from originators like Throbbing
>
Gristle, Neubauten and Cabaret Voltaire or laughable
> latter-day dinks who wear
space goggles and black fishnet
> stockings in your local shopping mall —
Killing Joke have
> never really strayed from guitar/bass/drums/keyboards. No
>
banging on metal or pile-drivers of clinky-clanky things at
> all.
> 
> I mean,
there are
> assuredly elements of metal and punk (and, for that matter,
> traces
of reggae and disco ) in the actual *sound* of the
> band, but I never had seen
how they’ve been qualified as
> Industrial. Killing Joke are no more an
industrial band than
> Public Image Ltd. are/were.
> 
> Of course, loads of
industrial bands have
> ripped Killing Joke off (hello, Ministry, NIN et al.),
but
> that doesn’t make the `Joke industrial.
> 
> At all.
> 
> No it doesn’t.
>

> Weigh in, haters.
> 
> Alex in NYC
>
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