[kj] Pink Floyd and Two-Degrees of Killing Joke:

[Paul Rangecroft]

LOL. Or you've got to be in the right company. The movie trailer guy
Mark Kermode takes the piss out of would be good. "IN A WORLD ... of
INSANITY ... only KILLING JOKE ..."

On 7/20/14, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> "Generally I listen to them because it's the music that most articulately
> expresses the insanely fucked-up nature of the world we live in"
>
> I tried to get that across once by whipping out the line "Killing Joke is
> the sound of the earth vomiting". Hard to pull off a statement like that
> unless you have a voice like James Earl Jones, or you look like Rasputin or
> something.
>
> Talking about over the top artists, this is amusing:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUD7rmHartE
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Paul
> Rangecroft
> Sent: Sunday, 20 July 2014 12:59 a.m.
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Pink Floyd and Two-Degrees of Killing Joke:
>
> Indeed. Wish I'd been at the BTATS shows too, just to be able to say I
> heard
> those songs live. You can get a bit of a sense for what the original album
> would have sounded like with the YouTube clips, anyway.
> Agree with Ade that Democracy demos would be interesting. Perhaps we could
> start a Kickstarter campaign going to pay Youth the £150,000 or so to undo
> the damage?
>
> 'Aeon' isn't a bad song but I'd be lying if I said I listened to it a lot.
> Appropriately named as it seems to last an eternity. 'Absent Friends'
> captures the sentiment well but I don't listen to KJ for that particular
> sweet sorrow. Generally I listen to them because it's the music that most
> articulately expresses the insanely fucked-up nature of the world we live
> in, but sometimes just because they're damn good tunes.
>
> On 7/19/14, jpwhkj at aol.com <jpwhkj at aol.com> wrote:
>> Still.  Wish I'd been there!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jpwhkj <jpwhkj at aol.com>
>> To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:43
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Pink Floyd and Two-Degrees of Killing Joke:
>>
>>
>> And didn't Jaz have a cold?  Aeon's here:
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aDKPOtHhNo
>>
>>
>> ...and the rest of it is available on youtube.
>>
>>
>> The sound is pretty muddy, and Jaz is growling a bit...
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 21:33
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Pink Floyd and Two-Degrees of Killing Joke:
>>
>>
>> Yes, that rings a bell, Jamie.
>>
>> We had a bootleg from Amsterdam '96 gig on the old site. Don't have it
>> anymore but it must be knocking around someone. Jon will probably have
>> it. Never gave it much of a listen because the quality wasn't great
>> and they were obviously stoned out of their minds because the playing
>> wasn't very good either, which is really rare for them. But I do
>> recall it sounded different so, yes, the loops could have been in.
>>
>> On 7/18/14, Jamie Hewson <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Agreed. I think I remember him saying he wrote and played all his
>>> parts high up to complement them but youth took them out to make it
>>> more US radio friendly?
>>>
>>> Am I right in believing that the few live shows for Democracy had the
>>> loops?
>>> I seem to remember someone on here saying as much but I may be wrong.
>>> Would love to hear a version with them back in but it'll never happen.
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 18, 2014, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Geordie said in some video interview online that originally the
>>>> Democracy album had lots of dance loops in the mixes (not unlike the
>>>> previous album, obviously) and that his guitar parts were written to
>>>> complement them. Youth then removed the dance loops late in the
>>>> production process but there was no opportunity for Geordie to
>>>> rerecord his guitars.
>>>>
>>>> I believe Savage Freedom was an exception to this and the mix on the
>>>> album is Geordie's. It's the only song from the album that I listen
>>>> to on a regular basis.
>>>>
>>>> I do have a lot of respect for Youth as a producer but that was not
>>>> his finest hour.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/18/14, jpwhkj at aol.com <javascript:;> <jpwhkj at aol.com
>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Yep, it's far from being KJ's worst effort.  I was disappointed at
>>>> > the
>>>> time,
>>>> > partly because my expectations were high after Pandemonium, and
>>>> > partly because the tour fizzled out.  And Geordie's criticism is
>>>> > probably
>>>> fair...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I'd love to see some of the tracks live... Aeon especially.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Jamie
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