[kj] new Black Sabbath albul

Brendan Quinn bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Thu Jun 13 00:08:04 EDT 2013



>From what I read, they started leaving Bill out of some shows, only inviting

him along to some of the gigs on the tour, I think from their perspective
it's cos they reckon he's not up to it anymore, Bill basically told them
they either wanted him on the tour or not, he wasn't going to do that to the
fans.



Hell of a shame if he's not up to playing anymore, if anyone I'd have
thought it would be Ozzy to crapitulate first:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOyHCgeWPpM





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At first they said Bill Ward wasn't on it because of some unexplained
"contractual dispute", then I saw in last months Classic Rock magazine a
quote from Ozzy saying that Bill couldn't remember what he was supposed to
be playing , so they had no choice but to get someone else in.
Apart from that , I agree that's it's not too bad for a last hoorah with
some good tracks , but yeah , far to clean and glossy for Sabbath.






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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:11:16 +0200
From: 65snoopy at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] new Black Sabbath albul

I like it, mostly for Ozzy's performance. There is little heavy rock wailing
and screeching,

he is almost singing in a monotone at times, quite sinister. Read an
interview recently

and Rick Rubin had him sing in his natural register instead of using studio
trickery

to go higher and then realising he can't do it live. That said, I hate
Rubin's production.

Ironic that at a time when so many bands are going out of their way to do
the 70s
analogue thing - Electric Wizard, Graveyard, Kadavar etc - Sabbath come out
sounding way too clean and glossy. Still, there are three or four excellent
songs -

and Age of Reason is phenomenal, the only track that comes close to Bill
Ward's

jazzy style of playing. Ozzy said he sees this as the follow up to Sabbath
Bloody Sabbath -

35-odd years late! - and I sort of see what he means in terms of song
construction and

general vibe. As a last attempt to rescue the legacy I think they pulled it
off, but with

Bill Ward it could have been superb.

PS In God Is Dead or End of the Beginning, can't remember which, Ozzy rhymes
'doom' and

'tomb' and 'gloom'... which made me smile. The unholy trinity of Sabbath
lyrics!



On 11 June 2013 21:12, Peter Moltesen <sneakypete at uwclub.net> wrote:


Anyone else heard it?

I wasn't particularly bothered to be honest - I'd rather remember them as
they were in about 1971

They were playing it in (cough!) HMV yesterday and it sounded a whole lot
better than I ever imagined it might have done

So much so that I bought a copy



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