[kj] new Black Sabbath albul

[Rheinhold Squeegee]

The July MOJO has an extensive Sabbath article that implies the same, i.e. that Bill Ward was welcome but neither physically nor mentally able to perform to the expected level. Drumming is hard and punishing work; just ask Jet Black, Bun E Carlos et. al. Does anyone remember the Mott the Hoople reunion in the UK a few years ago where Dale Griffin had to be helped to the stage and augmented by a second drummer? We should all be grateful that BPF only suffers from tendonitis.

 

The Sabbath situation seems to be a no-win for all parties.

 

 



From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:08:04 +1200
Subject: Re: [kj] new Black Sabbath albul








>From what I read, they started leaving Bill out of some shows, only inviting him along to some of the gigs on the tour, I think from their perspective it’s cos they reckon he’s not up to it anymore, Bill basically told them they either wanted him on the tour or not, he wasn’t going to do that to the fans…

 
Hell of a shame if he’s not up to playing anymore, if anyone I’d have thought it would be Ozzy to crapitulate first:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOyHCgeWPpM
 
 


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At first they said Bill Ward wasn't on it because of some unexplained "contractual dispute", then I saw in last months Classic Rock magazine a quote from Ozzy saying that Bill couldn't remember what he was supposed to be playing , so they had no choice but to get someone else in.
Apart from that , I agree that's it's not too bad for a  last hoorah with some good tracks , but yeah , far to clean and glossy for Sabbath.









Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:11:16 +0200
From: 65snoopy at gmail.com
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I like it, mostly for Ozzy's performance. There is little heavy rock wailing and screeching,
he is almost singing in a monotone at times, quite sinister. Read an interview recently
and Rick Rubin had him sing in his natural register instead of using studio trickery
to go higher and then realising he can't do it live. That said, I hate Rubin's production.
Ironic that at a time when so many bands are going out of their way to do the 70s
analogue thing - Electric Wizard, Graveyard, Kadavar etc - Sabbath come out 
sounding way too clean and glossy. Still, there are three or four excellent songs - 
and Age of Reason is phenomenal, the only track that comes close to Bill Ward's
jazzy style of playing. Ozzy said he sees this as the follow up to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 
35-odd years late! - and I sort of see what he means in terms of song construction and
general vibe. As a last attempt to rescue the legacy I think they pulled it off, but with
Bill Ward it could have been superb.
PS In God Is Dead or End of the Beginning, can't remember which, Ozzy rhymes 'doom' and
'tomb' and 'gloom'... which made me smile. The unholy trinity of Sabbath lyrics!

 

On 11 June 2013 21:12, Peter Moltesen <sneakypete at uwclub.net> wrote:

Anyone else heard it?

I wasn't particularly bothered to be honest - I'd rather remember them as
they were in about 1971

They were playing it in (cough!) HMV yesterday and it sounded a whole lot
better than I ever imagined it might have done

So much so that I bought a copy



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