[kj] OT: The origins of goth?

[Wolfgang Worschech]

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i saw > atomic rooster < live in germoney in 1971
with vincent crane, john du cann and paul hammond.
all dressed in black they played the songs 
from the album > death walks behind you <.
sadly they are all gone now.

wolfi

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> Datum: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:30:28 +0100

> Von: Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com>

> An: "A list about all things Killing Joke \\(the band!\\)" <gathering at misera.net>

> Betreff: Re: [kj] OT: The origins of goth?



> 	OK...

> 	And following on to that:

> 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_rock

> 	(WHAT? The Doors?!?!)

> 

> 	But nothing between 1967 (counting The Doors) / 1968 (Glass House Family)

> and Joy Division?

> 

> 

> 22 nov 2012 kl. 14.19 skrev wessidetempest .:

> 

> > Just to get everyone riled up

> > 

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture

> > 

> > On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:17 AM, "Per G Olsson"

> <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:

> > 

> >> 	Yep, I know that the term is extremely widely used.

> >> 	Sticking my neck out as little as possible I'd say that Sisters of

> Mercy and Bauhaus fully fits my expectations of "goth".

> >> 	Also early Specimen, a bit of Joy Division, early Clan of Xymox etc

> etc...

> >> 	

> >> 

> >> 22 nov 2012 kl. 14.07 skrev wessidetempest .:

> >> 

> >>> I guess it depends on what you consider goth. For example there are

> metal bands that are considered. And from my opinion it's only because they

> dress the part. 

> >>> 

> >>> On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:02 AM, "Per G Olsson"

> <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:

> >>> 

> >>>> 	As the list pretty quiet at the moment (strange considering that Jaz

> & Youth apparently are releasing stuff and and a KJ single is supposedly

> due soon) I'd thought I ask a "simple" question...

> >>>> 

> >>>> 	Anyone out there who has a good idea on tracking the roots of

> "goth"?

> >>>> 

> >>>> 	As with the term "punk" there are many different views on what bands

> to include, but I hope that among KJ fans there are quite a few that also

> listens to a lot of "goth".

> >>>> 

> >>>> 	The reason I ask is that I stumbled on this track by The Glass

> Family from 1968 (http://youtu.be/q_pIiQUIZoA), which in my ears sounds quite

> "gothic".

> >>>> 	The rest of what The Glass Family released has very little

> resemblance to "goth" (in my humble ears) so it seems to be a one off.

> >>>> 	Never heard any other 60:s track that sounds so "gothic", but please

> feel free to enlighten me if there are others!

> >>>> 

> >>>> 

> >>>> 	/Per

> >>>> 

> >>>> 

> >>>> 	(Cue "It started in the UX" "No, it began in the UY", where X and Y

> equals K or S depending on who starts)

> >>>> 

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