[kj] OT: The origins of goth?

Peter Moltesen sneakypete at uwclub.net
Thu Nov 22 15:45:10 EST 2012


Ever seen Nic Roeg's film of 'Glastonbury Fayre' from 1971?
Arthur Brown & Kingdom Come's set surely qualifies as proto goth

Peter


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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cathy.hawkes/bands1.htm

i saw > atomic rooster < live in germoney in 1971
with vincent crane, john du cann and paul hammond.
all dressed in black they played the songs
from the album > death walks behind you <.
sadly they are all gone now.

wolfi

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> Datum: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:30:28 +0100

> Von: Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com>

> An: "A list about all things Killing Joke \\(the band!\\)"

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> Betreff: Re: [kj] OT: The origins of goth?



> OK...

> And following on to that:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_rock

> (WHAT? The Doors?!?!)

>

> But nothing between 1967 (counting The Doors) / 1968 (Glass House

Family)

> and Joy Division?

>

>

> 22 nov 2012 kl. 14.19 skrev wessidetempest .:

>

> > Just to get everyone riled up

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture

> >

> > On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:17 AM, "Per G Olsson"

> <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:

> >

> >> Yep, I know that the term is extremely widely used.

> >> Sticking my neck out as little as possible I'd say that Sisters of

> Mercy and Bauhaus fully fits my expectations of "goth".

> >> Also early Specimen, a bit of Joy Division, early Clan of Xymox etc

> etc...

> >>

> >>

> >> 22 nov 2012 kl. 14.07 skrev wessidetempest .:

> >>

> >>> I guess it depends on what you consider goth. For example there are

> metal bands that are considered. And from my opinion it's only because

they

> dress the part.

> >>>

> >>> On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:02 AM, "Per G Olsson"

> <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> As the list pretty quiet at the moment (strange considering that Jaz

> & Youth apparently are releasing stuff and and a KJ single is supposedly

> due soon) I'd thought I ask a "simple" question...

> >>>>

> >>>> Anyone out there who has a good idea on tracking the roots of

> "goth"?

> >>>>

> >>>> As with the term "punk" there are many different views on what bands

> to include, but I hope that among KJ fans there are quite a few that also

> listens to a lot of "goth".

> >>>>

> >>>> The reason I ask is that I stumbled on this track by The Glass

> Family from 1968 (http://youtu.be/q_pIiQUIZoA), which in my ears sounds

quite

> "gothic".

> >>>> The rest of what The Glass Family released has very little

> resemblance to "goth" (in my humble ears) so it seems to be a one off.

> >>>> Never heard any other 60:s track that sounds so "gothic", but please

> feel free to enlighten me if there are others!

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> /Per

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> (Cue "It started in the UX" "No, it began in the UY", where X and Y

> equals K or S depending on who starts)

> >>>>

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