[kj] MMXII first listen:

[Nick Scott]

To be honest, the amount of muppets that work in retail stores in the
UK these days, it is more of a chore getting "customer service" to
even warrant the price mark ups over buying online.  Other than
clothing and food shopping, near enough everything else I do these
days is online, cheaper and far more convenient..unless of course you
struggle with the internet.

Having already seen KJ live before this album was released, and with
In Cythera and Rapture already been put out online, I had heard 6 of
the 10 songs already, so I personally don't consider this as a
spoiler.  Hearing the album in its entirety for me whilst I await the
CD to drop on my doormat next week at the cheapest price I can find is
the best of both worlds..I get to hear it now, and next week I get to
hear it sonically better, with liner notes at the cheapest price.

On 27 March 2012 15:44, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:

> Call me a super-Luddite, but I think it's more effort to figure out how to

> download and /or mail order everything

> than to go to the few remaineing record shops, seek it out, see what else is

> for sale, talk to the staff/partons,

> go home and read the lyrics and look at the artwork, etc etc. It's like

> eating a dinner w/your eyes closed and while

> walking around doing other things, rather than sitting in a restaurant.

> You get the taste of the food but miss a big

> part of the whole experience.

> I think downloads are a convenience but shouldn't replace the physical

> formats.

>

>> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:39:04 +0100

>> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen:

>

>>

>> Interesting read Alex, I too used to count down the days until an

>> artist I liked released a new album in my college days, eagerly

>> catching the bus after lectures to the nearest record shop to buy it,

>> to then go home to tape it for playing on my cassette walkman back to

>> college.

>>

>> Even ignoring the download/piracy argument at the moment, and just

>> assuming people buy physical releases only.....

>>

>> For me, it is now a total knock on effect with the recession and

>> costing of albums that people buy online, here in the UK towns left

>> right and centre are now becoming full of charity shops due to major

>> stores closing, our biggest Video Games Store chain GAME has gone into

>> administration, partly due to online pricing being cheaper, the knock

>> on effect is killing stores.

>>

>> Even when KJs album is released next week, I for one will not be these

>> days rushing to a record store to buy if when I can have it delivered

>> to my home for £2-3 less than stores are selling it for.

>>

>> With regards internet downloading, unless something is available in

>> FLAC format as a replaceable option for physical releases on CD/LP it

>> is a poor choice due to the compression MP3 takes out of musical

>> frequencies, and besides being old fashioned myself for wanting a

>> tangible physical format, is only suitable for the conveniences of

>> portable media players.

>>

>> I would not personally have invested so much money into home cinema

>> equipment to then take a step backwards listening to flat audio.

>>

>> I was really hoping this KJ album was leaked before the tour, these

>> days now that the town record shops have all but gone, and the only

>> "joy" is buying from HMV or your local supermarket *if* a release

>> charts enough for them to even stock it, I eagerly wait to hear any

>> album at the earliest opportunity..order it online for the cheapest

>> price and just reminisce about long times past.

>>

>> On 27 March 2012 14:07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>> >

>> > As I've been laboriously documenting in some recent blog posts (notably

>> > the

>> > two linked below, if you give a flying fuck), I'm becoming more and more

>> > Luddite-ish and resentful as I grow older, lamenting the old days when

>> > we'd

>> > anticipate a new album and then finally get our hands on it (as a

>> > tactile

>> > artifact), and then immerse ourselves in it, track by track and in the

>> > chronological order as was intended by the band. Nowadays, everything is

>> > about immediate gratification and uber-convenience. God forbid you

>> > should

>> > have to wait for anything or take your time to experience something in

>> > its

>> > uninterrupted wholeness.

>> >

>> > As such, I've resisted downloading the leaked record. Sure, I've heard

>> > "Rapture" and the mighty "In Cythera," but I've managed to eschew

>> > hearing

>> > anything else. I really want that pristine experience wherein I am able

>> > to

>> > enjoy the album from back to front while holding the artwork in my

>> > hands.

>> > Call me old fashioned. I don't give a fuck.

>> >

>> > But, as I go through my e-mail, I can't help but read some of the

>> > comments

>> > from those who have listened. I think it's indeed a testament to the

>> > versatility of Killing Joke that opinions are so divided. After all,

>> > consider the relatively vast shifts in style and sound within the band's

>> > own

>> > catalog -- from stentorian guitar crunch and barely human vocals to

>> > elegiac

>> > melodies, danceable rhythms and the graceful tolling of "the bell."

>> >  Unlike,

>> > say, AC/DC, Motorhead or the Ramones (great bands, all), Killing Joke

>> > have

>> > never simply been about one solitary thing.

>> >

>> > I'm trying to shut out the opinions until I get my hands on it and hear

>> > for

>> > myself ... but hear it the right way.

>> >

>> >

>> > http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/retromania-and-the-return-of-the-joke.html

>> >

>> > http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/the-virtual-line.html

>> >

>> > Alex in NYC

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

>> >

>> > oooh, harsh words... ;)

>> >

>> > Have been blasting it for most of the day and I'm liking everything to

>> > varying

>> > degrees aside from Pole Shift and Fema (finally coming round to Glitch).

>> > A

>> > few tracks

>> > are stunning, a few are great and some are ok. But I'm enjoying the

>> > variety

>> > - AD was

>> > many versions of the same song plus ESS and Ghosts - whereas this is

>> > coming

>> > from many different directions. Half of these songs and half from AD

>> > would

>> > have made for

>> > a stunning album -  for my tastes, anyway. For now, Trance, Primobile,

>> > Hallows, Cythera and Colony are

>> > on heavy rotation, songs that I think piss all over most of the last 2

>> > albums.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > On 27 March 2012 14:24, Stephen Robinson

>> > <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> Weakest album since Democracy, there, I've said it.

>> >>

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