[kj] MMXII first listen:

[Karen Weil]

That’s not being a Luddite: That’s being someone who likes tradition. And
when it comes to really enjoying music, it’s important.

 

 

K.W.

SoCal

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:45 AM
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen:

 

Call me a super-Luddite, but I think it's more effort to figure out how to
download and /or mail order everything
than to go to the few remaineing record shops, seek it out, see what else is
for sale, talk to the staff/partons, 
go home and read the lyrics and look at the artwork, etc etc. It's like
eating a dinner w/your eyes closed and while
walking around doing other things, rather than sitting in a restaurant. You
get the taste of the food but miss a big
part of the whole experience.
I think downloads are a convenience but shouldn't replace the physical
formats.
 


> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:39:04 +0100

> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen:

> 

> Interesting read Alex, I too used to count down the days until an

> artist I liked released a new album in my college days, eagerly

> catching the bus after lectures to the nearest record shop to buy it,

> to then go home to tape it for playing on my cassette walkman back to

> college.

> 

> Even ignoring the download/piracy argument at the moment, and just

> assuming people buy physical releases only.....

> 

> For me, it is now a total knock on effect with the recession and

> costing of albums that people buy online, here in the UK towns left

> right and centre are now becoming full of charity shops due to major

> stores closing, our biggest Video Games Store chain GAME has gone into

> administration, partly due to online pricing being cheaper, the knock

> on effect is killing stores.

> 

> Even when KJs album is released next week, I for one will not be these

> days rushing to a record store to buy if when I can have it delivered

> to my home for £2-3 less than stores are selling it for.

> 

> With regards internet downloading, unless something is available in

> FLAC format as a replaceable option for physical releases on CD/LP it

> is a poor choice due to the compression MP3 takes out of musical

> frequencies, and besides being old fashioned myself for wanting a

> tangible physical format, is only suitable for the conveniences of

> portable media players.

> 

> I would not personally have invested so much money into home cinema

> equipment to then take a step backwards listening to flat audio.

> 

> I was really hoping this KJ album was leaked before the tour, these

> days now that the town record shops have all but gone, and the only

> "joy" is buying from HMV or your local supermarket *if* a release

> charts enough for them to even stock it, I eagerly wait to hear any

> album at the earliest opportunity..order it online for the cheapest

> price and just reminisce about long times past.

> 

> On 27 March 2012 14:07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >

> > As I've been laboriously documenting in some recent blog posts (notably

the

> > two linked below, if you give a flying fuck), I'm becoming more and more

> > Luddite-ish and resentful as I grow older, lamenting the old days when

we'd

> > anticipate a new album and then finally get our hands on it (as a

tactile

> > artifact), and then immerse ourselves in it, track by track and in the

> > chronological order as was intended by the band. Nowadays, everything is

> > about immediate gratification and uber-convenience. God forbid you

should

> > have to wait for anything or take your time to experience something in

its

> > uninterrupted wholeness.

> >

> > As such, I've resisted downloading the leaked record. Sure, I've heard

> > "Rapture" and the mighty "In Cythera," but I've managed to eschew

hearing

> > anything else. I really want that pristine experience wherein I am able

to

> > enjoy the album from back to front while holding the artwork in my

hands.

> > Call me old fashioned. I don't give a fuck.

> >

> > But, as I go through my e-mail, I can't help but read some of the

comments

> > from those who have listened. I think it's indeed a testament to the

> > versatility of Killing Joke that opinions are so divided. After all,

> > consider the relatively vast shifts in style and sound within the band's

own

> > catalog -- from stentorian guitar crunch and barely human vocals to

elegiac

> > melodies, danceable rhythms and the graceful tolling of "the bell."

Unlike,

> > say, AC/DC, Motorhead or the Ramones (great bands, all), Killing Joke

have

> > never simply been about one solitary thing.

> >

> > I'm trying to shut out the opinions until I get my hands on it and hear

for

> > myself ... but hear it the right way.

> >

> >

http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/retromania-and-the-return-of-the
-joke.html

> >

> > http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2012/03/the-virtual-line.html

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

> >

> > oooh, harsh words... ;)

> >

> > Have been blasting it for most of the day and I'm liking everything to

> > varying

> > degrees aside from Pole Shift and Fema (finally coming round to Glitch).

A

> > few tracks

> > are stunning, a few are great and some are ok. But I'm enjoying the

variety

> > - AD was

> > many versions of the same song plus ESS and Ghosts - whereas this is

coming

> > from many different directions. Half of these songs and half from AD

would

> > have made for

> > a stunning album -  for my tastes, anyway. For now, Trance, Primobile,

> > Hallows, Cythera and Colony are

> > on heavy rotation, songs that I think piss all over most of the last 2

> > albums.

> >

> >

> >

> > On 27 March 2012 14:24, Stephen Robinson

> > <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> >>

> >> Weakest album since Democracy, there, I've said it.

> >>

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