[kj] Genealogy of a riff

[Brendan Quinn]

Video mini-documentary about a single 6-second drum break called the Amen
Break which is still being flogged to death in Hip Hop, narrated it would
seem by a narcoleptic or Steven Wright's little brother:

 

This fascinating, brilliant 20-minute video narrates the history of the
"Amen Break," a six-second drum sample from the b-side of a chart-topping
single from 1969. This sample was used extensively in early hiphop and
sample-based music, and became the basis for drum-and-bass and jungle music
-- a six-second clip that spawned several entire subcultures. Nate
Harrison's 2004 video is a meditation on the ownership of culture, the
nature of art and creativity, and the history of a remarkable music clip.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

 

 

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:22 a.m.
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] Genealogy of a riff

 

There are only so many riffs and riddims you can put in rock music. THe Wait
sounds like it's a half step with that cool driving beat--a pretty common
riff for 
any song. That's what makes rock (and reggae, rap, etc) great--when artists
borrow from each other but still make it their own. I don't think people
shouod
 get too possessive about music.
 

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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:45:06 -0600
From: b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Genealogy of a riff

Hmm, well, if I pretend, and maybe smoke some weed, and put a cotton ball in
one ear, I can vaguely hear a similarity between the War song and "The
Wait," but it's extremely tenuous, and definitely not in the league of the
Alien Sex Fiend, Siouxsie, et. al, "tributes" (*cough*) to "The Wait." 

I'm sure I could go back and find a Brahms composition that had a similar
lick in it somewhere, with different instruments, but saying Killing Joke's
"The Wait" is a rip off of that War song or "inspired by" - is really
wishful thinking for a War fan. I guess the Hawkwind one is a closer
possibility given Jaz and Geordie's predilection for weird 70s rock, but it
still feels not very convincing. Now, if you'd found a Led Zeppelin song
with that "Wait" riff, I'd be convinced...

-0liver




On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Peter Moltesen <sneakypete at uwclub.net>
wrote:

....or Hawkwind's "Magnu".....?

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Rheinhold Squeegee
Sent: 28 November 2011 14:20
To: Gathering Gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] Genealogy of a riff

 

You mean the entry on how many bands have recycled War's "Me & Baby Brother"
riff, including Killing Joke...
 
;)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQGPj1h1E5c
 

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Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:31:48 -0600
From: b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Genealogy of a riff

Here's a blog entry at my resuscitated Cultpunk blog/site. 

 

The entry's about the many bands that have recycled Killing Joke's "The
Wait" riff, with examples of all the ones I've been able to find.

 

 

http://www.cultpunk.org/?p=105

 

 


:)


 

-0liver


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