[kj] Genealogy of a riff

GREG SLAWSON gregslawson at msn.com
Mon Nov 28 17:21:40 EST 2011



There are only so many riffs and riddims you can put in rock music. THe Wait sounds like it's a half step with that cool driving beat--a pretty common riff for
any song. That's what makes rock (and reggae, rap, etc) great--when artists borrow from each other but still make it their own. I don't think people shouod
get too possessive about music.




Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:45:06 -0600
From: b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Genealogy of a riff

Hmm, well, if I pretend, and maybe smoke some weed, and put a cotton ball in one ear, I can vaguely hear a similarity between the War song and "The Wait," but it's extremely tenuous, and definitely not in the league of the Alien Sex Fiend, Siouxsie, et. al, "tributes" (*cough*) to "The Wait."

I'm sure I could go back and find a Brahms composition that had a similar lick in it somewhere, with different instruments, but saying Killing Joke's "The Wait" is a rip off of that War song or "inspired by" - is really wishful thinking for a War fan. I guess the Hawkwind one is a closer possibility given Jaz and Geordie's predilection for weird 70s rock, but it still feels not very convincing. Now, if you'd found a Led Zeppelin song with that "Wait" riff, I'd be convinced...

-0liver




On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Peter Moltesen <sneakypete at uwclub.net> wrote:




……….or Hawkwind’s “Magnu”………..?





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Rheinhold Squeegee
Sent: 28 November 2011 14:20
To: Gathering Gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] Genealogy of a riff





You mean the entry on how many bands have recycled War's "Me & Baby Brother" riff, including Killing Joke...

;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQGPj1h1E5c





Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:31:48 -0600
From: b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Genealogy of a riff

Here's a blog entry at my resuscitated Cultpunk blog/site.



The entry's about the many bands that have recycled Killing Joke's "The Wait" riff, with examples of all the ones I've been able to find.





http://www.cultpunk.org/?p=105






:)




-0liver

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