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Alexander Smith
vassifer at earthlink.net
Fri May 20 09:02:32 EDT 2011
"I just shake my head at your retaliatory nature."
You don't find that to be a pompous statement?
LET'S DROP IT!!!
Alex in NYC
On May 20, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
> I really don't think posting this initially was enough for you to
> think I was being retaliatory and pompous, try reading it again and
> explain how you seemed to get the wrong end of the stick?
>
> "Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't think the
> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop Nighttime album
> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here regularly how
> much you love it.
>
> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for "Hosannas" than
> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree."
>
> On 20 May 2011 13:48, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> ....yet fail to recognize the equally retaliatory and pompous
>> nature of your
>> own response.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>
>>> I just shake my head at your retaliatory nature.
>>>
>>> On 20 May 2011 13:36, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It was merely a retort to your comment that you'd been lurking
>>>> for many
>>>> years with rarely posting.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we need to continue this. I see your point that
>>>> there's too
>>>> much crap and not enough meaty discussion here, but that's kinda
>>>> the
>>>> nature
>>>> of the beast.
>>>>
>>>> As far as HOSANNAS versus NIGHTTIME goes, it's a matter of
>>>> opinion, and
>>>> no
>>>> reason for us to get in a strop about. Neither of us are "wrong"
>>>> for
>>>> liking
>>>> what we like. There is no end to that argument.
>>>>
>>>> Again, though, if you feel a dissenting opinion, why not express
>>>> it and
>>>> add
>>>> to the conversation instead of lurking?
>>>>
>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A lot more bloody confusing to work through, as I said, no column
>>>>> headings for distinct topics, no user interface, no moderation, no
>>>>> structure.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure I understand your comment about winning something?
>>>>> What
>>>>> is the sarcasm aimed at?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:21, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're getting into semantics here, but regardless of
>>>>>> terminology, how
>>>>>> exactly is a email list *different* from an open forum?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been on this list since about 1998 or 9. Do I win something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been on this forum lurking for many years with rarely
>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>> To be honest, this does not work as a forum anyway, it is an
>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>> list, it would be better structured as topics on a forum on a
>>>>>>> proper
>>>>>>> website in my opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps if there was structure, with column headings, topics
>>>>>>> etc,
>>>>>>> things on here wouldn't get as fragmented.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that an unwieldy portion of commentary here is entirely
>>>>>>>> flotsam,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> I assure this was not always the case. By the same token,
>>>>>>>> being an
>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>> forum, its very nature encourages differing opinions. You would
>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>> to simply read press releases that all tow a singular party
>>>>>>>> line?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 90% of the comments on this so called "Gathering" forum is
>>>>>>>>> dross
>>>>>>>>> anyway, you either get trolls, thread spoilers or what I
>>>>>>>>> would term
>>>>>>>>> "aggressors". Perhaps it is because I am tired or reading
>>>>>>>>> bitching
>>>>>>>>> on here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you fail to contribute, you rob yourself of the right to
>>>>>>>>>> bitch
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is hardly surprising I don't post much on here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:04, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe I ever asserted that my opinion WAS the
>>>>>>>>>>>> only one
>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> did, I'd appreciate it if you cited same before casting
>>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>>> aspersion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moreover, it's not my fault that you don't contribute
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to
>>>>>>>>>>>> re-establish
>>>>>>>>>>>> the rich tapestry of varied opinions that the Gathering
>>>>>>>>>>>> used to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> influx
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> insanity and ennui took over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't started a debate before? Just saying. Length
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> repetition only adds to the tension in songs on Hosannas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion, like some of KJs early stuff, which is also
>>>>>>>>>>>>> built on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> repetition. Yours is not the only opinion on here,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surprisingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:58, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dated or not, at least NIGHTTIME has fully-fleshed out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> songs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really want to start this debate again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nighttime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much you love it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hosannas"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:42, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Coles recognition is really the only silver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm unaware that the entire back catalog was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhumed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remastered and re-released (well, apart from KJ03 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HOPELESSANNAS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Neil Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, nice to see Colesy get a mention. Here's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hoping he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To paraphrase Winston Churchill:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Killing Joke will always do the right thing - after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhausted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the alternatives."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2011 23:26, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.killingjoke.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WEBSITE COMING SOON
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> European Dates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jun Poland Warsaw Sonisphere Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Jun Germany Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Jul Denmark Roskilde Festival Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Jul UK Knebworth Sonisphere Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22 Jul Finland Helsinki Tuska Open Air Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31 Jul Holland Utrecht Summer Darknes Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below we’ve got plenty of news for you from Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open that box we’re really pleased to bring you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ‘European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> State’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, our new single available on CD, 12” coloured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download. The formats of the new single are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (edit)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘Kali Yuga’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove’ (Dub Mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12” vinyl – 290 numbered copies available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exclusively from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.whatrecords.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard Extended mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard extended mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the start of the year we announced a deal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm/Universal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brand new studio album, which we’ll announce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We’re really excited to be back working with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> label who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dissent, and we’re also glad to announce they’ll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back catalogue which we will be repackaging and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course of the next year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was great to see so many of you in London,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nottingham and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and at the Camden Crawl recently, for our big return
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the full original line-up. As you may know, Jaz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barrier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Island, Paul to New York, Geordie to Prague and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Youth to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andulucia,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release of ‘European Super State’ we’re all very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to a massive summer ahead. We’ll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> festival
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to come soon as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We’ve also got something very special to announce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for fans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live show. Following our show at the Royal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Festival
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hall,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by stunning visuals designed by Mr. Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coles,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> genius and longtime Killing Joke collaborator, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance will be released as the definitive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will have many ways to get hold of a copy, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we’ll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce in early June.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The band are already working on the new album and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> underway for our European Tour starting in June
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full summer of festivals, taking in Roskilde and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sonisphere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is however with great regret that Killing Joke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancel the upcoming US dates due to health issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> band.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be back to the States very soon and appreciate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be an incredible year for Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to the future, and seeing you all at our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Killing Joke.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Written on May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm, by admin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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