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[Nick Scott]

A lot more bloody confusing to work through, as I said, no column
headings for distinct topics, no user interface, no moderation, no
structure.

I am not sure I understand your comment about winning something? What
is the sarcasm aimed at?

On 20 May 2011 13:21, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>

> We're getting into semantics here, but regardless of terminology, how

> exactly is a email list *different* from an open forum?

>

> I've been on this list since about 1998 or 9. Do I win something?

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

> On May 20, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>

>> I have been on this forum lurking for many years with rarely posting.

>> To be honest, this does not work as a forum anyway, it is an email

>> list, it would be better structured as topics on a forum on a proper

>> website in my opinion.

>>

>> Perhaps if there was structure, with column headings, topics etc,

>> things on here wouldn't get as fragmented.

>>

>> On 20 May 2011 13:15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>

>>> I agree that an unwieldy portion of commentary here is entirely flotsam,

>>> but

>>> I assure this was not always the case. By the same token, being an open

>>> forum, its very nature encourages differing opinions. You would prefer

>>> maybe

>>> to simply read press releases that all tow a singular party line?

>>>

>>> Alex in NYC

>>>

>>>

>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>

>>>> 90% of the comments on this so called "Gathering" forum is dross

>>>> anyway, you either get trolls, thread spoilers or what I would term

>>>> "aggressors".   Perhaps it is because I am tired or reading bitching

>>>> on here.

>>>>

>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> If you fail to contribute, you rob yourself of the right to bitch about

>>>>> it,

>>>>> then.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> It is hardly surprising I don't post much on here.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:04, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I don't believe I ever asserted that my opinion WAS the only one

>>>>>>> here.

>>>>>>> If

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> did, I'd appreciate it if you cited same before casting said

>>>>>>> aspersion.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Moreover, it's not my fault that you don't contribute enough to

>>>>>>> re-establish

>>>>>>> the rich tapestry of varied opinions that the Gathering used to be

>>>>>>> influx

>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>> insanity and ennui took over.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I haven't started a debate before?  Just saying.  Length and

>>>>>>>> repetition only adds to the tension in songs on Hosannas in my

>>>>>>>> opinion, like some of KJs early stuff, which is also built on

>>>>>>>> repetition.  Yours is not the only opinion on here, surprisingly

>>>>>>>> enough.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:58, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Dated or not, at least NIGHTTIME has fully-fleshed out, actual

>>>>>>>>> songs

>>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Do you really want to start this debate again?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't think

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop Nighttime

>>>>>>>>>> album

>>>>>>>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here regularly how

>>>>>>>>>> much you love it.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for "Hosannas"

>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:42, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Coles recognition is really the only silver lining

>>>>>>>>>>> here.

>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm unaware that the entire back catalog was already

>>>>>>>>>>> recently

>>>>>>>>>>> exhumed,

>>>>>>>>>>> remastered and re-released (well, apart from KJ03 and

>>>>>>>>>>> HOPELESSANNAS)

>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Still, nice to see Colesy get a mention. Here's hoping he gets

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> new

>>>>>>>>>>> LP

>>>>>>>>>>> also.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> To paraphrase Winston Churchill:

>>>>>>>>>>> "Killing Joke will always do the right thing - after they have

>>>>>>>>>>> exhausted

>>>>>>>>>>> all the alternatives."

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> n

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2011 23:26, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> www.killingjoke.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> WEBSITE COMING SOON

>>>>>>>>>>>> European Dates

>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jun Poland Warsaw Sonisphere Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Jun Germany Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Jul Denmark Roskilde Festival Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Jul UK Knebworth Sonisphere Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>> 22 Jul Finland Helsinki Tuska Open Air Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>> 31 Jul Holland Utrecht Summer Darknes Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke News

>>>>>>>>>>>> Below we’ve got plenty of news for you from Killing Joke, but

>>>>>>>>>>>> before

>>>>>>>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>>>>> open that box we’re really pleased to bring you ‘European Super

>>>>>>>>>>>> State’

>>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>>> month, our new single available on CD, 12” coloured vinyl and

>>>>>>>>>>>> digital

>>>>>>>>>>>> download. The formats of the new single are:

>>>>>>>>>>>> CD

>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (edit)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘Kali Yuga’

>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove’ (Dub Mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> 12” vinyl – 290 numbered copies available exclusively from

>>>>>>>>>>>> www.whatrecords.co.uk

>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard Extended mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Download

>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’

>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard extended mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> At the start of the year we announced a deal with

>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm/Universal

>>>>>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>>>>> a brand new studio album, which we’ll announce details of after

>>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>>> summer.

>>>>>>>>>>>> We’re really excited to be back working with the label who put

>>>>>>>>>>>> out

>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolute

>>>>>>>>>>>> Dissent, and we’re also glad to announce they’ll be taking

>>>>>>>>>>>> control

>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> some

>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back catalogue which we will be repackaging and improving

>>>>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> course of the next year.

>>>>>>>>>>>> It was great to see so many of you in London, Nottingham and

>>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester,

>>>>>>>>>>>> and at the Camden Crawl recently, for our big return to playing

>>>>>>>>>>>> live

>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>> the full original line-up. As you may know, Jaz retired to the

>>>>>>>>>>>> Great

>>>>>>>>>>>> Barrier

>>>>>>>>>>>> Island, Paul to New York, Geordie to Prague and Youth to

>>>>>>>>>>>> Andulucia,

>>>>>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>> the release of ‘European Super State’ we’re all very much back

>>>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>> action

>>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to a massive summer ahead. We’ll have more UK

>>>>>>>>>>>> festival

>>>>>>>>>>>> news

>>>>>>>>>>>> to come soon as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>> We’ve also got something very special to announce for fans of

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing

>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live show. Following our show at the Royal Festival Hall,

>>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>> was

>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by stunning visuals designed by Mr. Mike Coles, an

>>>>>>>>>>>> artistic

>>>>>>>>>>>> genius and longtime Killing Joke collaborator, we can now

>>>>>>>>>>>> announce

>>>>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> performance will be released as the definitive Killing Joke live

>>>>>>>>>>>> album.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Fans

>>>>>>>>>>>> will have many ways to get hold of a copy, the details of which

>>>>>>>>>>>> we’ll

>>>>>>>>>>>> announce in early June.

>>>>>>>>>>>> The band are already working on the new album and preparations

>>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>> now

>>>>>>>>>>>> underway for our European Tour starting in June which takes us

>>>>>>>>>>>> straight

>>>>>>>>>>>> into

>>>>>>>>>>>> a full summer of festivals, taking in Roskilde and Sonisphere to

>>>>>>>>>>>> name

>>>>>>>>>>>> but a

>>>>>>>>>>>> few.

>>>>>>>>>>>> It is however with great regret that Killing Joke have been

>>>>>>>>>>>> forced

>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>> cancel the upcoming US dates due to health issues within the

>>>>>>>>>>>> band.

>>>>>>>>>>>> We

>>>>>>>>>>>> hope

>>>>>>>>>>>> to be back to the States very soon and appreciate all your

>>>>>>>>>>>> support.

>>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be an incredible year for Killing Joke, and we

>>>>>>>>>>>> look

>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to the future, and seeing you all at our shows.

>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Killing Joke.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Written on May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm, by admin

>>>>>>>>>>>>

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