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[Alexander Smith]

We're getting into semantics here, but regardless of terminology, how  
exactly is a email list *different* from an open forum?

I've been on this list since about 1998 or 9. Do I win something?

Alex in NYC




On May 20, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Nick Scott wrote:


> I have been on this forum lurking for many years with rarely posting.

> To be honest, this does not work as a forum anyway, it is an email

> list, it would be better structured as topics on a forum on a proper

> website in my opinion.

>

> Perhaps if there was structure, with column headings, topics etc,

> things on here wouldn't get as fragmented.

>

> On 20 May 2011 13:15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>> I agree that an unwieldy portion of commentary here is entirely  

>> flotsam, but

>> I assure this was not always the case. By the same token, being an  

>> open

>> forum, its very nature encourages differing opinions. You would  

>> prefer maybe

>> to simply read press releases that all tow a singular party line?

>>

>> Alex in NYC

>>

>>

>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>

>>> 90% of the comments on this so called "Gathering" forum is dross

>>> anyway, you either get trolls, thread spoilers or what I would term

>>> "aggressors".   Perhaps it is because I am tired or reading bitching

>>> on here.

>>>

>>> On 20 May 2011 13:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>  

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> If you fail to contribute, you rob yourself of the right to bitch  

>>>> about

>>>> it,

>>>> then.

>>>>

>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> It is hardly surprising I don't post much on here.

>>>>>

>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:04, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>  

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I don't believe I ever asserted that my opinion WAS the only  

>>>>>> one here.

>>>>>> If

>>>>>> I

>>>>>> did, I'd appreciate it if you cited same before casting said  

>>>>>> aspersion.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Moreover, it's not my fault that you don't contribute enough to

>>>>>> re-establish

>>>>>> the rich tapestry of varied opinions that the Gathering used to  

>>>>>> be

>>>>>> influx

>>>>>> of

>>>>>> insanity and ennui took over.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I haven't started a debate before?  Just saying.  Length and

>>>>>>> repetition only adds to the tension in songs on Hosannas in my

>>>>>>> opinion, like some of KJs early stuff, which is also built on

>>>>>>> repetition.  Yours is not the only opinion on here, surprisingly

>>>>>>> enough.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:58, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>  

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dated or not, at least NIGHTTIME has fully-fleshed out,  

>>>>>>>> actual songs

>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Do you really want to start this debate again?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't  

>>>>>>>>> think the

>>>>>>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop  

>>>>>>>>> Nighttime

>>>>>>>>> album

>>>>>>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here  

>>>>>>>>> regularly how

>>>>>>>>> much you love it.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for  

>>>>>>>>> "Hosannas"

>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:42, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Coles recognition is really the only silver  

>>>>>>>>>> lining here.

>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm unaware that the entire back catalog was already  

>>>>>>>>>> recently

>>>>>>>>>> exhumed,

>>>>>>>>>> remastered and re-released (well, apart from KJ03 and

>>>>>>>>>> HOPELESSANNAS)

>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Still, nice to see Colesy get a mention. Here's hoping he  

>>>>>>>>>> gets the

>>>>>>>>>> new

>>>>>>>>>> LP

>>>>>>>>>> also.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> To paraphrase Winston Churchill:

>>>>>>>>>> "Killing Joke will always do the right thing - after they  

>>>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>>>> exhausted

>>>>>>>>>> all the alternatives."

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> n

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2011 23:26, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>  

>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> www.killingjoke.com

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> WEBSITE COMING SOON

>>>>>>>>>>> European Dates

>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jun Poland Warsaw Sonisphere Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Jun Germany Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Jul Denmark Roskilde Festival Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Jul UK Knebworth Sonisphere Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>> 22 Jul Finland Helsinki Tuska Open Air Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>> 31 Jul Holland Utrecht Summer Darknes Buy Tickets

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke News

>>>>>>>>>>> Below we’ve got plenty of news for you from Killing Joke,  

>>>>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>>> before

>>>>>>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>>>> open that box we’re really pleased to bring you ‘European  

>>>>>>>>>>> Super

>>>>>>>>>>> State’

>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>> month, our new single available on CD, 12” coloured vinyl  

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> digital

>>>>>>>>>>> download. The formats of the new single are:

>>>>>>>>>>> CD

>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (edit)

>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘Kali Yuga’

>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove’ (Dub Mix)

>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>> 5. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> 12” vinyl – 290 numbered copies available exclusively from

>>>>>>>>>>> www.whatrecords.co.uk

>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard Extended mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Download

>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’

>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard extended mix)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> At the start of the year we announced a deal with

>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm/Universal

>>>>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>>>> a brand new studio album, which we’ll announce details of  

>>>>>>>>>>> after

>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>> summer.

>>>>>>>>>>> We’re really excited to be back working with the label who  

>>>>>>>>>>> put out

>>>>>>>>>>> Absolute

>>>>>>>>>>> Dissent, and we’re also glad to announce they’ll be taking  

>>>>>>>>>>> control

>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> some

>>>>>>>>>>> of the back catalogue which we will be repackaging and  

>>>>>>>>>>> improving

>>>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> course of the next year.

>>>>>>>>>>> It was great to see so many of you in London, Nottingham and

>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester,

>>>>>>>>>>> and at the Camden Crawl recently, for our big return to  

>>>>>>>>>>> playing

>>>>>>>>>>> live

>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>> the full original line-up. As you may know, Jaz retired to  

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> Great

>>>>>>>>>>> Barrier

>>>>>>>>>>> Island, Paul to New York, Geordie to Prague and Youth to

>>>>>>>>>>> Andulucia,

>>>>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>> the release of ‘European Super State’ we’re all very much  

>>>>>>>>>>> back in

>>>>>>>>>>> action

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to a massive summer ahead. We’ll have more  

>>>>>>>>>>> UK

>>>>>>>>>>> festival

>>>>>>>>>>> news

>>>>>>>>>>> to come soon as well.

>>>>>>>>>>> We’ve also got something very special to announce for fans  

>>>>>>>>>>> of the

>>>>>>>>>>> Killing

>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live show. Following our show at the Royal Festival  

>>>>>>>>>>> Hall,

>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>> was

>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by stunning visuals designed by Mr. Mike  

>>>>>>>>>>> Coles, an

>>>>>>>>>>> artistic

>>>>>>>>>>> genius and longtime Killing Joke collaborator, we can now  

>>>>>>>>>>> announce

>>>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> performance will be released as the definitive Killing  

>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live

>>>>>>>>>>> album.

>>>>>>>>>>> Fans

>>>>>>>>>>> will have many ways to get hold of a copy, the details of  

>>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>> we’ll

>>>>>>>>>>> announce in early June.

>>>>>>>>>>> The band are already working on the new album and  

>>>>>>>>>>> preparations are

>>>>>>>>>>> now

>>>>>>>>>>> underway for our European Tour starting in June which  

>>>>>>>>>>> takes us

>>>>>>>>>>> straight

>>>>>>>>>>> into

>>>>>>>>>>> a full summer of festivals, taking in Roskilde and  

>>>>>>>>>>> Sonisphere to

>>>>>>>>>>> name

>>>>>>>>>>> but a

>>>>>>>>>>> few.

>>>>>>>>>>> It is however with great regret that Killing Joke have  

>>>>>>>>>>> been forced

>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>> cancel the upcoming US dates due to health issues within  

>>>>>>>>>>> the band.

>>>>>>>>>>> We

>>>>>>>>>>> hope

>>>>>>>>>>> to be back to the States very soon and appreciate all your

>>>>>>>>>>> support.

>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be an incredible year for Killing Joke,  

>>>>>>>>>>> and we

>>>>>>>>>>> look

>>>>>>>>>>> forward to the future, and seeing you all at our shows.

>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Killing Joke.

>>>>>>>>>>> Written on May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm, by admin

>>>>>>>>>>>

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