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[jon chapman]

It is a pain when the subject topic goes off on a tangent......like this one.




> 

> A lot more bloody confusing to work through, as I said, no column

> headings for distinct topics, no user interface, no moderation, no

> structure.

> 

> I am not sure I understand your comment about winning something? What

> is the sarcasm aimed at?

> 

> On 20 May 2011 13:21, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >

> > We're getting into semantics here, but regardless of terminology, how

> > exactly is a email list *different* from an open forum?

> >

> > I've been on this list since about 1998 or 9. Do I win something?

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On May 20, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

> >

> >> I have been on this forum lurking for many years with rarely posting.

> >> To be honest, this does not work as a forum anyway, it is an email

> >> list, it would be better structured as topics on a forum on a proper

> >> website in my opinion.

> >>

> >> Perhaps if there was structure, with column headings, topics etc,

> >> things on here wouldn't get as fragmented.

> >>

> >> On 20 May 2011 13:15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> I agree that an unwieldy portion of commentary here is entirely flotsam,

> >>> but

> >>> I assure this was not always the case. By the same token, being an open

> >>> forum, its very nature encourages differing opinions. You would prefer

> >>> maybe

> >>> to simply read press releases that all tow a singular party line?

> >>>

> >>> Alex in NYC

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> 90% of the comments on this so called "Gathering" forum is dross

> >>>> anyway, you either get trolls, thread spoilers or what I would term

> >>>> "aggressors".   Perhaps it is because I am tired or reading bitching

> >>>> on here.

> >>>>

> >>>> On 20 May 2011 13:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> If you fail to contribute, you rob yourself of the right to bitch about

> >>>>> it,

> >>>>> then.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Alex in NYC

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> It is hardly surprising I don't post much on here.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:04, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I don't believe I ever asserted that my opinion WAS the only one

> >>>>>>> here.

> >>>>>>> If

> >>>>>>> I

> >>>>>>> did, I'd appreciate it if you cited same before casting said

> >>>>>>> aspersion.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Moreover, it's not my fault that you don't contribute enough to

> >>>>>>> re-establish

> >>>>>>> the rich tapestry of varied opinions that the Gathering used to be

> >>>>>>> influx

> >>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>> insanity and ennui took over.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Alex in NYC

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I haven't started a debate before?  Just saying.  Length and

> >>>>>>>> repetition only adds to the tension in songs on Hosannas in my

> >>>>>>>> opinion, like some of KJs early stuff, which is also built on

> >>>>>>>> repetition.  Yours is not the only opinion on here, surprisingly

> >>>>>>>> enough.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:58, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Dated or not, at least NIGHTTIME has fully-fleshed out, actual

> >>>>>>>>> songs

> >>>>>>>>> on

> >>>>>>>>> it.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Do you really want to start this debate again?

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Nick Scott wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't think

> >>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop Nighttime

> >>>>>>>>>> album

> >>>>>>>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here regularly how

> >>>>>>>>>> much you love it.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for "Hosannas"

> >>>>>>>>>> than

> >>>>>>>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:42, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Coles recognition is really the only silver lining

> >>>>>>>>>>> here.

> >>>>>>>>>>> I

> >>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm unaware that the entire back catalog was already

> >>>>>>>>>>> recently

> >>>>>>>>>>> exhumed,

> >>>>>>>>>>> remastered and re-released (well, apart from KJ03 and

> >>>>>>>>>>> HOPELESSANNAS)

> >>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Still, nice to see Colesy get a mention. Here's hoping he gets

> >>>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>> new

> >>>>>>>>>>> LP

> >>>>>>>>>>> also.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> To paraphrase Winston Churchill:

> >>>>>>>>>>> "Killing Joke will always do the right thing - after they have

> >>>>>>>>>>> exhausted

> >>>>>>>>>>> all the alternatives."

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> n

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2011 23:26, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> www.killingjoke.com

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> WEBSITE COMING SOON

> >>>>>>>>>>>> European Dates

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jun Poland Warsaw Sonisphere Buy Tickets

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Jun Germany Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen Buy Tickets

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Jul Denmark Roskilde Festival Buy Tickets

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Jul UK Knebworth Sonisphere Buy Tickets

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 22 Jul Finland Helsinki Tuska Open Air Buy Tickets

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 31 Jul Holland Utrecht Summer Darknes Buy Tickets

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke News

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Below we’ve got plenty of news for you from Killing Joke, but

> >>>>>>>>>>>> before

> >>>>>>>>>>>> we

> >>>>>>>>>>>> open that box we’re really pleased to bring you ‘European Super

> >>>>>>>>>>>> State’

> >>>>>>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>>>>>> month, our new single available on CD, 12” coloured vinyl and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> digital

> >>>>>>>>>>>> download. The formats of the new single are:

> >>>>>>>>>>>> CD

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (edit)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘Kali Yuga’

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove’ (Dub Mix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 12” vinyl – 290 numbered copies available exclusively from

> >>>>>>>>>>>> www.whatrecords.co.uk

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Dub Remix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard Extended mix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Download

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ‘European Super State’

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ‘European Super State’ (Youth Remix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ‘European Super State’ (Justin Broadrick Remix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ‘European Super State’ (Clive Goddard extended mix)

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> At the start of the year we announced a deal with

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm/Universal

> >>>>>>>>>>>> for

> >>>>>>>>>>>> a brand new studio album, which we’ll announce details of after

> >>>>>>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>>>>>> summer.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> We’re really excited to be back working with the label who put

> >>>>>>>>>>>> out

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Absolute

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dissent, and we’re also glad to announce they’ll be taking

> >>>>>>>>>>>> control

> >>>>>>>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>>>>>>> some

> >>>>>>>>>>>> of the back catalogue which we will be repackaging and improving

> >>>>>>>>>>>> over

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> course of the next year.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> It was great to see so many of you in London, Nottingham and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> and at the Camden Crawl recently, for our big return to playing

> >>>>>>>>>>>> live

> >>>>>>>>>>>> with

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the full original line-up. As you may know, Jaz retired to the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Great

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Barrier

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Island, Paul to New York, Geordie to Prague and Youth to

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Andulucia,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> but

> >>>>>>>>>>>> with

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the release of ‘European Super State’ we’re all very much back

> >>>>>>>>>>>> in

> >>>>>>>>>>>> action

> >>>>>>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to a massive summer ahead. We’ll have more UK

> >>>>>>>>>>>> festival

> >>>>>>>>>>>> news

> >>>>>>>>>>>> to come soon as well.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> We’ve also got something very special to announce for fans of

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Killing

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live show. Following our show at the Royal Festival Hall,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> which

> >>>>>>>>>>>> was

> >>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by stunning visuals designed by Mr. Mike Coles, an

> >>>>>>>>>>>> artistic

> >>>>>>>>>>>> genius and longtime Killing Joke collaborator, we can now

> >>>>>>>>>>>> announce

> >>>>>>>>>>>> that

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> performance will be released as the definitive Killing Joke live

> >>>>>>>>>>>> album.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fans

> >>>>>>>>>>>> will have many ways to get hold of a copy, the details of which

> >>>>>>>>>>>> we’ll

> >>>>>>>>>>>> announce in early June.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> The band are already working on the new album and preparations

> >>>>>>>>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>>>>>> now

> >>>>>>>>>>>> underway for our European Tour starting in June which takes us

> >>>>>>>>>>>> straight

> >>>>>>>>>>>> into

> >>>>>>>>>>>> a full summer of festivals, taking in Roskilde and Sonisphere to

> >>>>>>>>>>>> name

> >>>>>>>>>>>> but a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> few.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is however with great regret that Killing Joke have been

> >>>>>>>>>>>> forced

> >>>>>>>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>>>>>> cancel the upcoming US dates due to health issues within the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> band.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> We

> >>>>>>>>>>>> hope

> >>>>>>>>>>>> to be back to the States very soon and appreciate all your

> >>>>>>>>>>>> support.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be an incredible year for Killing Joke, and we

> >>>>>>>>>>>> look

> >>>>>>>>>>>> forward to the future, and seeing you all at our shows.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Killing Joke.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Written on May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm, by admin

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

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