[kj] Yiggers at Porn....

andrew scott brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Jan 17 10:04:05 EST 2011


What do I mean by too accessible?  Perhaps the fact that it sounds like hard alternative rock that the music community should be into rather than far-out weirdo stuff or even things like Extremities, which to b honest had much deeper effect on me.  But maybe was just the time of life & the prevailing climate that added to that.  Whilst I think Absolute Dissent is great LP not sure if I would class it in my higher echelons of listening pleasure.  Only time will tell.  It certainly has its moments.  As I said it is accesssible enough to be more widely loved I believe.


The Fungus Moth.
 
Challenging the Future.

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> ..Killing Joke have become too accessible with this LP.??

?
?? What exactly do you mean by "too accessible"? Sounds?like more "gettable" but
thought I'd ask.




?

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From: andrew scott <brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 7:33:12 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Triggers at Yawn...


That is so pathetic not really worth commenting on but I will.? If someone
slagged off Killing Joke I would just feel sorry for?their lack of?musical
insight, but wow u must really love those arseholes.? I?am entitled to say
exactly what I want & I will say it again.? For me Big Country were utter shit!?
Number one albums means nothing to me, so I guess we are very different people.?
In fact I think Killing Joke have become too accessible with this LP.? More
underground the better. And I don't like K Bushes music either.? So stuff it up
yer haggis!?

The Fungus Moth.
?
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>???1. Re: Scott Shite (OT) (Paul Rangecroft)

>???2. Re: Turn your knobs up to '11 poll (Peter Moltesen)

>???3. Re: Scott Shite (OT) (Rob Moss)

>???4. Re: Scott Shite (OT) (GREG SLAWSON)

>???5. Re: Knobs (GREG SLAWSON)

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>Message: 1

>Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:37:04 +0000

>From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>

>Subject: Re: [kj] Scott Shite (OT)

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>??? <gathering at misera.net>

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>Fuck off you ignorant prick!

>

>If anyone else is mean about Big Country I'll shove a bagpipe so far up

>their arse they'll be able to play it themselves.

>

>They had a number one album, worked with Kate Bush and shared a stage with

>KJ. At a time when it was all synths and haircuts they wrote real music

>about working-class themes and played it on real instruments.

>

>Plus two of them were English.

>

>Don't speak ill of the dead muthafucka. How would you like it if you were on

>another list and every time KJ were mentioned someone said how shit they

>were and what a cunt Raven was?

>

>

>On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, andrew scott <brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

>

>> Here I go again!!? Wow, I remember Big Country, of course, from my

>> formative years, TOTP, J Peel, Zigzag etc etc.? They were shite!!? Utter

>> shite!!? Again in my own opinion.? I also recall getting quite aggressive in

>> my virulent dislike of them when I was 18 & I was relatively calm then!!

>> Please talk about better music!

>>

>> As for M Atkins, well whatever people think of him? I have utmost respect

>> for his drumming!!? He added that extra explosion to Extremities & all

>> Murder Inc, Damage Manual recordings are superb of course as well as some

>> Pigface.? There we go!

>>

>>

>> The Fungus Moth.

>>

>> Challenging the Future.

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>From: "Peter Moltesen" <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] Turn your knobs up to '11 poll

>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

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>Name: Peter Moltesen

>

>Model: 1964 - 2 door, 3 litre V8

>

>Special power: an ability to lose my temper with inanimate objects

>

>Best film(s) you saw last year (not necessarily released last year):

>

>Best TV show(s)/series you watched last year: Fresh Blood, Never Mind the

>Buzzcocks, Mock the Week, The Mighty Boosh (I'm a latecomer to this),

>Coronation Street,

>

>

>Best album(s) & single(s): last year was very good for music, for starters:

>

>

>

>KJ - Absolute Dissent,

>

>Various -Leader of the Starry Skies (The Tim Smith songbook),

>

>Bardo Pond - Bardo Pond

>

>White Hills - pretty much everything they released

>

>GNOD - ditto

>

>Tristeza - Paisajes

>

>Various - In Search of Hawkwind

>

>Mugstar - Sun, Broken

>

>Hawkwind - Blood of the Earth. Far better than anything they've done in at

>least the last 25 years

>

>Sun Araw - On Patrol

>

>Magic Lantern - Platoon

>

>Best book(s) you've read:

>

>

>

>Electric Eden - Rob Young

>

>

>

>Best gig(s):

>

>

>

>Hawkwind.?

>

>Wooden Shjips

>

>White Hills

>

>GNOD

>

>Best stand-up (gigs or TV, DVD etc): I really liked Frankie Boyle until I

>saw 'Tramadol Nights' which was so unbelievably shit & unfunny,?

>

>Tim Vine makes me laugh too, and Bill Bailey

>

>Worst TV show(s)/series:? Frankie Boyle's Tramadol Nights, apart from that

>theres the endless "Celebrity" / reality / cookery / property porn tv that

>passes for entertainment these days - do we REALLY need X Factor on both

>Saturday and Sunday evenings ? Well - do we ???

>

>

>

>Best Film - not seen many films this year, but Toy Story 3 gets Jack's vote

>

>Any other highlights/low-points:

>

>

>

>High -? watching my little boy, Jack, grow up

>

>Watching the Sun set in the Florida Keys

>

>Going to Stonehenge for the Summer Solstice again

>

>Snow at Christmas and being able to take Jack sledging in Sutton Park?

>

>

>

>Low - the continued ill health of my dad

>

>the continued ill health of Cardiacs' Tim Smith

>

>The death of Ronnie James Dio

>

>Nick Clegg

>

>How going to gigs is becoming almost prohibitively expensive these days

>

>Ditto going to the pub

>

>The steady decline of the record shop. There is no longer an independent

>record shop in Birmingham City Centre. Not a single solitary one.

>

>

>

>

>If you had to live your life by a single motto, what would that be?

>Bleeding Head good, Healed Head bad

>

>

>

>

>Best Film - not seen many films this year, but Toy Story 3 gets Jack's vote

>

>

>Twitter or Facebook? Facebook

>

>Hero of 2010: Julian Assange, Lemmy

>

>Zero of 2010:

>

>Jordan, or whatever her name is

>

>Nick Clegg

>

>The Tea Party

>

>Any resolutions for this year: no

>

>What were your childhood ambitions? Have you managed to fulfil any or all of

>them?

>

>Spitfire Pilot ? no

>

>Astronaut ?? nope

>

>Long Distance Lorry Driver ? no

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:46:26 -0800 (PST)
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Triggers at Yawn...
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Ugh! the only thing worse than others?relentlessly quoting "Eighties" (after I
cite KJ as my fave)?is for others then to either or also quote "Love Like Blood"
and for toppers to say it like *I'm* the waking Anachronism.?
A quick?reply?that KJ?has released?3 albums in the last 7 years puts
the?Clueless shoe?on the other foot (theirs).

?
... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current?state of things..]
?
'Who has the fun..
? ..is it?always a man with a gun...?
??? Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"?




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From: Michael Garcia <sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com>
To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke
(the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 11:03:44 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Triggers at Yawn...


Yes, the standard "eighties" reference I've heard far too many times.?

Michael

www.thor_recording at yahoo.com
www.myspace.com/pleasureandpainmusic
Skype: dragonfly_mg

On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


Here in the States -- even here in ever hip NYC -- whenever I invoke Killing
Joke as "my favorite band," most ?people either stare at me blankly or cite
"Eighties."


>That all said, most people are stupid.

>Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>?

>-----Original Message-----

>>From: GREG SLAWSON

>>Sent: Jan 14, 2011 1:49 PM

>>To: gathering

>>Subject: Re: [kj] Triggers at Yawn...

>>

>>Try coming to the US--the Joke are pretty underground here. "Joke who? Killing

>>what??Oh, you mean Killing Joe?"

>>

>>For some reason bands like Joy Division and even Gang of Four are much better

>>remembered.

>>?

>>________________________________

Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:33:12 +0000

>>From: brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Subject: Re: [kj] Triggers at Yawn...

>>

>>

>>That is so pathetic not really worth commenting on but I will.? If someone

>>slagged off Killing Joke I would just feel sorry for?their lack of?musical

>>insight, but wow u must really love those arseholes.? I?am entitled to say

>>exactly what I want & I will say it again.? For me Big Country were utter shit!?

>>Number one albums means nothing to me, so I guess we are very different people.?

>>In fact I think Killing Joke have become too accessible with this LP.? More

>>underground the better. And I don't like K Bushes music either.? So stuff it up

>>yer haggis!?

>>

>>The Fungus Moth.

>>?

>>Challenging the Future.

>>

>>--- On Wed, 12/1/11, gathering-request at misera.net <gathering-request at misera.net>

>>wrote:

>>

>>

>>>From: gathering-request at misera.net <gathering-request at misera.net>

>>>Subject: Gathering Digest, Vol 90, Issue 28

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 20:58

>>>

>>>

>>>Send Gathering mailing list submissions to

>>>??? gathering at misera.net

>>>

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>>>

>>>Today's Topics:

>>>

>>>???1. Re: Scott Shite (OT) (Paul Rangecroft)

>>>???2. Re: Turn your knobs up to '11 poll (Peter Moltesen)

>>>???3. Re: Scott Shite (OT) (Rob Moss)

>>>???4. Re: Scott Shite (OT) (GREG SLAWSON)

>>>???5. Re: Knobs (GREG SLAWSON)

>>>

>>>

>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>

>>>Message: 1

>>>Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:37:04 +0000

>>>From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Scott Shite (OT)

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>>??? <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Message-ID:

>>>??? <AANLkTi=eRhu7VSh05h6AMMwtF8M1qbE-jMYv8pfidb4D at mail.gmail.com>

>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>>>

>>>Fuck off you ignorant prick!

>>>

>>>If anyone else is mean about Big Country I'll shove a bagpipe so far up

>>>their arse they'll be able to play it themselves.

>>>

>>>They had a number one album, worked with Kate Bush and shared a stage with

>>>KJ. At a time when it was all synths and haircuts they wrote real music

>>>about working-class themes and played it on real instruments.

>>>

>>>Plus two of them were English.

>>>

>>>Don't speak ill of the dead muthafucka. How would you like it if you were on

>>>another list and every time KJ were mentioned someone said how shit they

>>>were and what a cunt Raven was?

>>>

>>>

>>>On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM, andrew scott <brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

>>>

>>>> Here I go again!!? Wow, I remember Big Country, of course, from my

>>>> formative years, TOTP, J Peel, Zigzag etc etc.? They were shite!!? Utter

>>>> shite!!? Again in my own opinion.? I also recall getting quite aggressive

in

>>>> my virulent dislike of them when I was 18 & I was relatively calm then!!

>>>> Please talk about better music!

>>>>

>>>> As for M Atkins, well whatever people think of him? I have utmost respect

>>>> for his drumming!!? He added that extra explosion to Extremities & all

>>>> Murder Inc, Damage Manual recordings are superb of course as well as some

>>>> Pigface.? There we go!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> The Fungus Moth.

>>>>

>>>> Challenging the Future.

>>>>

>>>>

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>>>Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:38:16 -0000

>>>From: "Peter Moltesen" <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Turn your knobs up to '11 poll

>>>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

>>>??? <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Message-ID: <20110112204800.6468C10535 at mailwash5.pair.com>

>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Name: Peter Moltesen

>>>

>>>Model: 1964 - 2 door, 3 litre V8

>>>

>>>Special power: an ability to lose my temper with inanimate objects

>>>

>>>Best film(s) you saw last year (not necessarily released last year):

>>>

>>>Best TV show(s)/series you watched last year: Fresh Blood, Never Mind the

>>>Buzzcocks, Mock the Week, The Mighty Boosh (I'm a latecomer to this),

>>>Coronation Street,

>>>

>>>

>>>Best album(s) & single(s): last year was very good for music, for starters:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>KJ - Absolute Dissent,

>>>

>>>Various -Leader of the Starry Skies (The Tim Smith songbook),

>>>

>>>Bardo Pond - Bardo Pond

>>>

>>>White Hills - pretty much everything they released

>>>

>>>GNOD - ditto

>>>

>>>Tristeza - Paisajes

>>>

>>>Various - In Search of Hawkwind

>>>

>>>Mugstar - Sun, Broken

>>>

>>>Hawkwind - Blood of the Earth. Far better than anything they've done in at

>>>least the last 25 years

>>>

>>>Sun Araw - On Patrol

>>>

>>>Magic Lantern - Platoon

>>>

>>>Best book(s) you've read:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Electric Eden - Rob Young

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Best gig(s):

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Hawkwind.?

>>>

>>>Wooden Shjips

>>>

>>>White Hills

>>>

>>>GNOD

>>>

>>>Best stand-up (gigs or TV, DVD etc): I really liked Frankie Boyle until I

>>>saw 'Tramadol Nights' which was so unbelievably shit & unfunny,?

>>>

>>>Tim Vine makes me laugh too, and Bill Bailey

>>>

>>>Worst TV show(s)/series:? Frankie Boyle's Tramadol Nights, apart from that

>>>theres the endless "Celebrity" / reality / cookery / property porn tv that

>>>passes for entertainment these days - do we REALLY need X Factor on both

>>>Saturday and Sunday evenings ? Well - do we ???

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Best Film - not seen many films this year, but Toy Story 3 gets Jack's vote

>>>

>>>Any other highlights/low-points:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>High -? watching my little boy, Jack, grow up

>>>

>>>Watching the Sun set in the Florida Keys

>>>

>>>Going to Stonehenge for the Summer Solstice again

>>>

>>>Snow at Christmas and being able to take Jack sledging in Sutton Park?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Low - the continued ill health of my dad

>>>

>>>the continued ill health of Cardiacs' Tim Smith

>>>

>>>The death of Ronnie James Dio

>>>

>>>Nick Clegg

>>>

>>>How going to gigs is becoming almost prohibitively expensive these days

>>>

>>>Ditto going to the pub

>>>

>>>The steady decline of the record shop. There is no longer an independent

>>>record shop in Birmingham City Centre. Not a single solitary one.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>If you had to live your life by a single motto, what would that be?

>>>Bleeding Head good, Healed Head bad

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Best Film - not seen many films this year, but Toy Story 3 gets Jack's vote

>>>

>>>

>>>Twitter or Facebook? Facebook

>>>

>>>Hero of 2010: Julian Assange, Lemmy

>>>

>>>Zero of 2010:

>>>

>>>Jordan, or whatever her name is

>>>

>>>Nick Clegg

>>>

>>>The Tea Party

>>>

>>>Any resolutions for this year: no

>>>

>>>What were your childhood ambitions? Have you managed to fulfil any or all of

>>>them?

>>>

>>>Spitfire Pilot ? no

>>>

>>>Astronaut ?? nope

>>>

>>>Long Distance Lorry Driver ? no

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>That's a 'no' on all 3 counts, then

>>>

>>>

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