[kj] Broken Britain
fluke 1
fluke1 at live.co.uk
Fri Aug 12 11:42:34 EDT 2011
The participants of the recent riots were not campaigning for pensioners heating allowances to be raised though .
The participants of the rioting were not monetary bankrupt, they were morally bankrupt .
Crap food is usually more expensive than healthy food , but its more convenient to buy unhealthy food than to cook healthy food.
Some OAPs may die every year through lack of heating, but the huge majority do not .
clothing and commodities have never been more affordable .
The U.K has a benefits system that provides for peoples basic needs .
42 inch flat screen TVS are not as basic need .
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:41:00 +0100
> To: gathering at misera.net
> From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain
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> Sorry to hear this Paula... but I honestly don't think it can be said there
> is no poverty in this country. Perhaps not in comparison to Africa or
> something, but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford to heat their
> homes, people having to eat crap cos they can't afford decent food blah
> blah blah. It IS there.
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> Totally can't be arsed getting into an argument with the (rather depressing
> amount of) right-wingers on this list, not least because in my 15 years of
> being on it I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "actually, that's a
> fair point... you may be right" hahaha! But if we don't try and understand
> the reasons for things happening, we'll never understand them.
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> I still go with
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> "Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it of
> industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for
> corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money. Ask
> for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts
> everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they
> advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's ability
> to pay for them. Light blue touch paper."
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> that was posted the other day.
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> Anyway, I'm going to see Jerry Sadowitz tonight... he'll no doubt make me
> feel better ;)
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> Dave in Edinburgh
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> >On 12 Aug 2011, at 11:25, Paula Cook wrote:
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> >I live in Ealing. The nearest the riots got to my home was about 200
> >yards. I couldn't sleep Monday night with all the noise, sirens and
> >helicopters. The next day, most of the town centre was cordoned off. I
> >just couldn't believe the destruction. My hairdresser, beauty salon,
> >corner shop, and all my other local shops had been attacked. A family
> >member of the beauty salon's owner had been attacked trying to protect his
> >business, his face a mass of cuts and bruises. Some people had been
> >attacked in their homes and had to flee, their homes burnt out. Others had
> >their cars burnt. Local people, including myself, were in a complete state
> >of shock.
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> >I couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night because I was so frightened.
> >I'm in my mid-40s, live alone, am 5'1" tall and under 9 stone - and I only
> >have kitchen knives to protect myself against a mob invading my home.
> >
> >Gatherers, no disrespect to any one of you, but I don't want to hear any
> >more excuses and justifications for this behaviour. There are none. London
> >is a city of opportunity. There is NO poverty in this country, the welfare
> >state ensures that. Poverty exists in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin
> >America; I've seen the shanties of Guatemala City, Managua and Panama City
> >with my own eyes, they are shocking, nothing like that here. We have it
> >very good indeed in this country compared with most other countries.
> >
> >I want the full force of the law to come down on those responsible. I want
> >the law, for which I pay through my taxes, to protect me and make me feel
> >safe again in my own home. 3,000 police for 9 million Londoners is a joke,
> >we need the 16,000 we've had in the past few days to become permanent. I
> >would like to see a highly visible police presence in London from now on,
> >police have been conspicuous by their absence for a long time now. We need
> >the authorities to come down like a ton of bricks on all this "gangsta"
> >culture, hoodies and suchlike. I don't want to live my life in fear.
> >
> >Stay safe Gatherers
> >Paula aka Nuclear Girl
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