[kj] Broken Britain

[Janean Lancaster]

<<< Actually Dave, that's a fair point, I think you may be right >>>

Damn, I wasn't the first to say it after all.  :-)

On 12/08/2011 16:11, Phillipps Marc wrote:

> Actually Dave, that's a fair point, I think you may be right

>

> ~:o)

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> Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain

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> Sorry to hear this Paula... but I honestly don't think it can be said

> there

> is no poverty in this country. Perhaps not in comparison to Africa or

> something, but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford to heat

> their

> homes, people having to eat crap cos they can't afford decent food blah

> blah blah.  It IS there.

>

> Totally can't be arsed getting into an argument with the (rather

> depressing

> amount of) right-wingers on this list, not least because in my 15 years

> of

> being on it I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "actually, that's a

> fair point... you may be right" hahaha!  But if we don't try and

> understand

> the reasons for things happening, we'll never understand them.

>

> I still go with

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> "Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it

> of

> industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for

> corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money.

> Ask

> for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts

> everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they

> advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's

> ability

> to pay for them. Light blue touch paper."

>

> that was posted the other day.

>

> Anyway, I'm going to see Jerry Sadowitz tonight... he'll no doubt make

> me

> feel better ;)

>

> Dave in Edinburgh

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>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 11:25, Paula Cook wrote:

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>> I live in Ealing. The nearest the riots got to my home was about 200

>> yards. I couldn't sleep Monday night with all the noise, sirens and

>> helicopters. The next day, most of the town centre was cordoned off. I

>> just couldn't believe the destruction. My hairdresser, beauty salon,

>> corner shop, and all my other local shops had been attacked. A family

>> member of the beauty salon's owner had been attacked trying to protect

> his

>> business, his face a mass of cuts and bruises. Some people had been

>> attacked in their homes and had to flee, their homes burnt out. Others

> had

>> their cars burnt. Local people, including myself, were in a complete

> state

>> of shock.

>>

>> I couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night because I was so

> frightened.

>> I'm in my mid-40s, live alone, am 5'1" tall and under 9 stone - and I

> only

>> have kitchen knives to protect myself against a mob invading my home.

>>

>> Gatherers, no disrespect to any one of you, but I don't want to hear

> any

>> more excuses and justifications for this behaviour. There are none.

> London

>> is a city of opportunity. There is NO poverty in this country, the

> welfare

>> state ensures that. Poverty exists in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin

>> America; I've seen the shanties of Guatemala City, Managua and Panama

> City

>> with my own eyes, they are shocking, nothing like that here. We have it

>> very good indeed in this country compared with most other countries.

>>

>> I want the full force of the law to come down on those responsible. I

> want

>> the law, for which I pay through my taxes, to protect me and make me

> feel

>> safe again in my own home. 3,000 police for 9 million Londoners is a

> joke,

>> we need the 16,000 we've had in the past few days to become permanent.

> I

>> would like to see a highly visible police presence in London from now

> on,

>> police have been conspicuous by their absence for a long time now. We

> need

>> the authorities to come down like a ton of bricks on all this "gangsta"

>> culture, hoodies and suchlike. I don't want to live my life in fear.

>>

>> Stay safe Gatherers

>> Paula aka Nuclear Girl

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