[kj] Broken Britain

[fluke 1]

"Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for 
corporations."
 
   I believe that the rich pay 50% tax and the poor pay no tax and receive benefits on top of their earnings .
Taxes for the rich need to be cut, so that they have more money to spend which will filter down to the poor and enrich them .
Making the rich poor will not make the poor rich .
 
 


> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:41:00 +0100

> To: gathering at misera.net

> From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

> Subject: Re: [kj] Broken Britain

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> Sorry to hear this Paula... but I honestly don't think it can be said there 

> is no poverty in this country. Perhaps not in comparison to Africa or 

> something, but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford to heat their 

> homes, people having to eat crap cos they can't afford decent food blah 

> blah blah. It IS there.

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> Totally can't be arsed getting into an argument with the (rather depressing 

> amount of) right-wingers on this list, not least because in my 15 years of 

> being on it I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "actually, that's a 

> fair point... you may be right" hahaha! But if we don't try and understand 

> the reasons for things happening, we'll never understand them.

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> I still go with

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> "Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it of 

> industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for 

> corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money. Ask 

> for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts 

> everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they 

> advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's ability 

> to pay for them. Light blue touch paper."

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> that was posted the other day.

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> Anyway, I'm going to see Jerry Sadowitz tonight... he'll no doubt make me 

> feel better ;)

> 

> Dave in Edinburgh

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> >On 12 Aug 2011, at 11:25, Paula Cook wrote:

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> >I live in Ealing. The nearest the riots got to my home was about 200 

> >yards. I couldn't sleep Monday night with all the noise, sirens and 

> >helicopters. The next day, most of the town centre was cordoned off. I 

> >just couldn't believe the destruction. My hairdresser, beauty salon, 

> >corner shop, and all my other local shops had been attacked. A family 

> >member of the beauty salon's owner had been attacked trying to protect his 

> >business, his face a mass of cuts and bruises. Some people had been 

> >attacked in their homes and had to flee, their homes burnt out. Others had 

> >their cars burnt. Local people, including myself, were in a complete state 

> >of shock.

> >

> >I couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night because I was so frightened. 

> >I'm in my mid-40s, live alone, am 5'1" tall and under 9 stone - and I only 

> >have kitchen knives to protect myself against a mob invading my home.

> >

> >Gatherers, no disrespect to any one of you, but I don't want to hear any 

> >more excuses and justifications for this behaviour. There are none. London 

> >is a city of opportunity. There is NO poverty in this country, the welfare 

> >state ensures that. Poverty exists in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin 

> >America; I've seen the shanties of Guatemala City, Managua and Panama City 

> >with my own eyes, they are shocking, nothing like that here. We have it 

> >very good indeed in this country compared with most other countries.

> >

> >I want the full force of the law to come down on those responsible. I want 

> >the law, for which I pay through my taxes, to protect me and make me feel 

> >safe again in my own home. 3,000 police for 9 million Londoners is a joke, 

> >we need the 16,000 we've had in the past few days to become permanent. I 

> >would like to see a highly visible police presence in London from now on, 

> >police have been conspicuous by their absence for a long time now. We need 

> >the authorities to come down like a ton of bricks on all this "gangsta" 

> >culture, hoodies and suchlike. I don't want to live my life in fear.

> >

> >Stay safe Gatherers

> >Paula aka Nuclear Girl

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