[kj] fully ON topic - new tracks

[jpwhkj at aol.com]

I like the idea of Groove Metal.? That prompts me to share with the list how much I love the way KJ combine truly funky bass with razor-edged guitar.? Reminds me of Tackhead in that respect.



That's an interesting point about taking post-1990 as "where they were heading".? Personally I don't see it like that; once Big Paul had gone, I think KJ changed direction, not deliberately, but because the creative tension that drove them forward had broken.? That's not to say that they haven't produced some amazing stuff since then, but I think the unique Joke-ness has never quite been there. <gets into nuclear bunker while armageddon-style flame war breaks out>



One of my exes was big on the Led Zep / KJ similarities, in particular A New Day (supposedly) sounded like LZ.



Think I'll put on some Tackhead.



Jamie






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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:30
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I think that first album in particular:

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Requiem

Wardance (groove metal ;)

The Wait (speed / thrash)

possibily Primitive

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Huge chunks of Extremities, easily the first half. Bloody good album but will always be proto-Pandy to me, just in terms of what popped my cherry and what I was contemporary with. I think Pandy was their metal zenith, and?a creative high water mark. 

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Other than that it's hard to pick individual tracks (easily)...but if I had to peg them I'd say rock or metal was a dominant constituent. It's what they've been doing predominantly since about 1990 so I suppose to me that lends weight that that's what I was hearing and where they were heading.

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If I had to pick a song that reminded me most of "Dub?Metal" I'd say Dominator is the perfect fit, but is that THE defining early KJ track??I dunno if you could pick one, going from Nervous System to Requiem to?Night Time to One Step Ahead?is just gonna divide fans, no way around it.

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Anyway all you post punk wannabes just need to get over it,?buy yourselves some black t shirts, learn the horns, start drinking Jack and get over it.

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*wink*

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jpwhkj at aol.com
Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 12:18 AM
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I remember reading an interview or review way back (in the eighties) which described them as dub metal.? (If?memory serves, WTF was specifically referenced.)? Personally, I can't see the metal bit, but I'm not much of a muso...

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Brendan - which (pre-Pandemonium) tracks do you think are at the metal end of the Joke's spectrum?

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Jamie


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From: iPat <pmdavies at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:12
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as well as reggae elements then, their penchant for roots was evident
does that then, using some peoples argument, make them a reggae/dub band?

its a silly discussion, they are what they are and trying to put
labels on them simply does them injustice.



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> That doesn't make KJ a metal band per se, but there are certainly metal

> elements to their sound.

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> Alex in NYC


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