[kj] OT: Competition?

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Wed Oct 22 04:21:22 EDT 2008


I didn't mean you were quoting out of context (I may have said "another"
quote that's taken out of context, what I meant was another quote, comma,
that's taken out of context...my bad. If I was actually gonna contradict
you I'd have explained why I thought you were out of context...but feel
free to unsub anyways ;)

Nietzsche's quote, from memory, is prefixed with: "From the military school:"

So it's not meant to be a truism about life. And yeah, I agree, he's
hugely contradictory at times, annoyingly so for someone who wrote so well
at his best. Half the time he's proto-Aleister Crowley and half the time
he's Buddha.

Another quote that reminds me of the Nietzsche one is "pain is weakness
leaving the body". Which merely cracks me up, not really supposed to be
taken seriously, something only personal trainers can say with a straight
face ;)


> Nietzsche is not one to go to for consistency. He did say "Was mich

> nicht umbringt, macht mich stärker" = "What does not kill me makes me

> stronger," and espoused, at times, a very hard-hearted selfishness that

> spat upon socialism and Christianity and two types of herd philosophies

> that appealed to the weak who were resentful, envious, losers at life,

> and who clung to them to ruin the successful folks' good time.

>

> Yet he also warned people to avoid the kind of character type he seemed

> to extol when he said, "Beware those in whom the desire to punish is

> strong." His writing doesn't form a cohesive system, and I think he was

> against such things.

>

> Also, the Proudhon quote I used isn't "out of context." Proudhon was a

> socialist, and was pointing out the irony that when folks compete,

> someone wins, the other loses, and then ends the competition. On a mass

> scale, like in business, the losers go out of business, and one is left

> with monopolies -- according to his ideas. So I wasn't quoting him "out

> of context" at all. It was an accurate quote.

>

> -Oliver

>

> The Exorcist wrote:

>> Jaaaa, I think we had a few emails discussing it when I first started

>> using it.

>>

>

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