[kj] OT: Competition?

The Exorcist killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
Tue Oct 21 21:25:17 EDT 2008


LOL... Thanks!
I guess I get lucky on occasion... :)

Orrrrrrrrr, It really does suck and you just want
me to stick at sucking so you feed me
false compliments. *grin* (Insert conspiracy theory music here.)

Best,
Yos

At 02:41 PM 10/21/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>Beautifully written, Yos.

>

>k.w.

>----- Original Message -----

>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about

>all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:50 AM

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Competition?

>

>Who mentioned out of context?

>

>What you had quoted below is me responding to Brendan about MY signature.

>I didn't say anything in response to what you had written. :)

>

>I am not a philosophy expert so I usually will

>avoid the discussions. However one thing I do wonder.

>Is consistency a good thing or a bad thing?

>

>I can see not being consistent as being open

>minded and allowing further input into a discussion so that

>nothing is truly concrete and everything might

>have a different viewpoint or way of shaping itself out.

>

>I can also see it as someone who is wishywashy,

>can't form a coherent thought process and is unsure

>of his principles, understanding and ideals. Confused?

>

>The same with being consistent. Someone who is

>stubborn and refuses to budge regardless of what he/she

>comes across.

>

>Someone who is well grounded, has proper

>formulations and reaches logical conclusions based on his various

>insights into the current topic of discussion.

>

>This can obviously be better written and go into

>more detail. But you get the gist.

>

>

>Cheers,

>Yos

>

>At 01:21 PM 10/21/2008, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>>Nietzsche is not one to go to for consistency.

>>He did say "Was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich

>>stärker" = "What does not kill me makes me

>>stronger," and espoused, at times, a very

>>hard-hearted selfishness that spat upon

>>socialism and Christianity and two types of

>>herd philosophies that appealed to the weak who

>>were resentful, envious, losers at life, and

>>who clung to them to ruin the successful folks' good time.

>>

>>Yet he also warned people to avoid the kind of

>>character type he seemed to extol when he said,

>>"Beware those in whom the desire to punish is

>>strong." His writing doesn't form a cohesive

>>system, and I think he was against such things.

>>

>>Also, the Proudhon quote I used isn't "out of

>>context." Proudhon was a socialist, and was

>>pointing out the irony that when folks compete,

>>someone wins, the other loses, and then ends

>>the competition. On a mass scale, like in

>>business, the losers go out of business, and

>>one is left with monopolies -- according to his

>>ideas. So I wasn't quoting him "out of context"

>>at all. It was an accurate quote.

>>

>>-Oliver

>>

>>The Exorcist wrote:

>>>Jaaaa, I think we had a few emails discussing

>>>it when I first started using it.

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