[kj] OT - es295 sighting/when Geordie tuned down.

fluw fluwdot at earthlink.net
Tue Nov 11 17:58:33 EST 2008


Geordie tuned down one half step on revelations. Then one whole tone down on
firedances



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Phillipps Marc
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT - es295 sighting..




>I think Geordie started to tune down around Firedances. But I'm not sure.




Quote from a 1994 interview:



Part of the secret of Killing Joke's cavernous sound is Geordie's simple but
unusual choice of alternative tuning.

"Yeah, I've never used that much of a standard tuning anyway. There's
something wild about that tuning, but it's been around for centuries.

"I think the first album was regular tuning, but I found out after the
second album that I had been tuned a semitone down like Hendrix. Anyway, one
day at rehearsal I took the guitar out of the case and started playing with
the bottom E tuned down to D, but we thought it sounded really great and so
I've used it ever since - money for old rope."



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Christof hamille
Sent: 11 November 2008 15:04
To: The Gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - es295 sighting..



Cliff would be the best to answer since he actually touched it (the guitar
that is).


>From what I remember he uses a heavier gauge because he tunes down. Maybe

to D and then the top D even lower. So in that case it is better to have
thicker strings so you don't have to much flop.

I think Geordie started to tune down around Firedances. But I'm not sure.

Chris

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:03:03 -0800
From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - es295 sighting..

Not sure. I read something similar too. I use a 10 on the high e with heavy
bottoms. Still experimenting around with the strings setup since I've only
had it a short time. 12's would be a bit much for me I think!



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From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:33:08 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - es295 sighting..

Btw, does Geordie use a string set starting at .012(the "little" E)? That is
supposed to add a lot to his sound (I think someone posted here a long time
ago) yeah?




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From: Michael Garcia <sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:26:10 PM
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Another sighting:



http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage
<http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=237
626175&albumID=1042084&imageID=12592344>
&friendID=237626175&albumID=1042084&imageID=12592344



http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage
<http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=237
626175&albumID=1042084&imageID=12719012>
&friendID=237626175&albumID=1042084&imageID=12719012



Hah, That's me, although with the Epiphone version. (along with fellow
gatherer singing Mr. Aleph) from our first show as the sisters tribute band
The Reptile House. I have to say the workmanship is very very close to the
gibson one. I played a gibson one at guitar center and other than the gibson
not having the bigsby, it, extremely close in quality (minus about $2000)



Cheers

Michael



www.myspace.com/thereptilehaus





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From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:02:08 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - es295 sighting..

Thanks for the info, I really thought it was one, and in the unlikeliest of
hands, too.



Though I thought i'd read somewhere that there are (or, were) sunburst
<http://cgi.ebay.com/1953-GIBSON-ES-295-Archtop-Vintage-Guitar-OHSC-Sunburst
_W0QQitemZ350120221731QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item350120221731&_trksi
d=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1416%7C66:2%7C65:12%7C39:1%7C240:1318> es295s,

along with all-black versions (Johnny Marr, i think?).



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From: Phillipps Marc <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:28:27 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - es295 sighting..


>I bet Marc can give you the exact seriel number before the days out!




G001-129090



I'd hazard a guess at a Guild . . they have/had tailpieces that look a lot
like that



Maybe one of these?



http://www.12fret.com/used/GuildC100Dnat141380.jpg



The other "not 295" giveaway is the fact it is sunburst





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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of powens
Sent: 10 November 2008 09:01
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No - definitely not Gibson. Plus it's got humbuckers rather than p90's.
Could be a Hagstrom...the modern one's have the same tailpiece.

http://www.hagstromguitars.com/deluxef.html

I bet Marc can give you the exact seriel number before the days out!

john-paul




2008/11/10 sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>

Does that look like a Gibson es295 guitar
<http://www.strawberryswitchblade.net/gallery/switchblade_11.php>
http://www.strawberryswitchblade.net/gallery/switchblade_11.php

(at right, with Strawberry Switchblade)?

I'm going by the tailpiece; I can't make out how thick the body is.







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