[kj] Soundgarden

[Alexander Smith]

You obviously weren't paying attention, then.

Alex in NYC


On Mar 17, 2008, at 7:59 AM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:


>

> If I had to label SG, based on teh little I've heard of them, I'd  

> say TIRED rehash of super-commercial 70s/80s metal...

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:57:21 +1300

> Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

>

> Agreed, labels aren’t totally worthless but they aren’t profound  

> metaphors to any large extent, or the experience of the things they  

> describe. And good bands transcend labels.

>

> Except AC / DC ;)

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:07 a.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

>

> Labels labels labels.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

> On Mar 16, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Brendan Quinn wrote:

>

>

> Yeah I remember one of the members of SG saying that Johnny told  

> them Soundgarden were the reason the Ramones got back together or  

> something, but it ain’t bragging if it’s true. If you want I can try  

> to find that reference…the Ramones link was something I only found  

> out very recently, so it’s not something I think they really  

> promoted hard out or anything…I’m personally not that into the  

> Ramones. But SG to me were always rock, you could call some of it  

> prog rock I’m sure (Head Down etc). Punk, metal, they are just  

> offshoots of rock really innit?

>

> You might be more into Hater or Wellwater Conspiracy, Soundgarden  

> side projects. Both pretty different to Soundgarden, Hater has  

> elements of garage, surfer music, 50s rock, all sorts, quite a crack  

> up at times.

>

> Hater, Ben Shepherd singing:

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B0aboIq5u0

>

> The last track on that album is called Sad McBain, it’s a take the  

> piss out of McBain, quite a laugh J

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

> Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 2:59 p.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

>

> I guess I thought they claimed to be punk b/c they alsways take  

> photos w/ the Ramones, etc.

> As for punk JUXTAPOSED w/bluegrass--that i love. My goal when I  

> retire from teaching is to start a band that does just that--sort of  

> like Jason and the Scorchers w/a banjo. BTW, Tommy Ramone currently  

> plays in a straight-ahead bluegrass group, and says in interviews he  

> likes both types of music.

>

>

> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:44:28 +0000

> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

> Well, when you're not filtering your creativity through prejudices,  

> there's absolutely no reason

> why ANYTHING can't be done, let alone mixing punk & bluegrass, or  

> whatever. That's how Punk

> came abput in the first place, surely? Oh, sorry, I forgot free  

> expression is a crime in the Punk Bible.

> Not at first, but the 'fans' soon changed that  ;)

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

> Sent: 17 March 2008 00:40

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

> When did they claim to be the new punk…I think you’ve got your lines  

> crossed on that one. This is one of their few forays into the punk  

> ethic:

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qEETTedSz0

>

> Ben Shepherd who wrote the above song, the bassist, was more into  

> the punk side of things. He defended mixing hillbilly and punk on  

> this track as a completely natural thing to do because of the energy  

> of the music, nothing to do with genres at all. Most of the comments  

> I’ve read from them mention staying away from being pigeon holed  

> into any genre at all. If you want I can forward you a link to a  

> site with dozens of articles and intereviews from their whole  

> career, a bit of an irrational domain, but with more (all lyrics,  

> tab, articles, discography etc etc…quite an amazing site).

>

> To me they share with Killing Joke a certain darkness and intensity,  

> their lyrics both deal with personal demons, politics, philosophy etc.

>

> I can see how some people would find Cornell a bit screamy, esp  

> early on.

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

> Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 1:17 p.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: [kj] Soundgarden

>

> I despise Soundgarden (esp. the Led Zep/JudASS Priest vocals), but i  

> listened to that song "Nothing to Say" or whatever that was just  

> posted, and I did hear a rather Geordie-esque guitar part...I guess  

> that's why the site the Joke as an influence (don't they?). I still  

> don't get why they always claimed to b the new punk though...

> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:14:17 +0000

> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] [KJ] OT: Prescient Tory anti-Labour Poster...

>

> Sh!t, man - looks like the tories got it right after all !!!

> http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Politics/Pix/pictures/2001/03/09/PAdemoneyes.gif

> I love that poster !

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