[kj] Soundgarden

[Brendan Quinn]

Agreed, sorry Greg but you’re talking shite.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
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Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

 

 

You obviously weren't paying attention, then.

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

On Mar 17, 2008, at 7:59 AM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:






If I had to label SG, based on teh little I've heard of them, I'd say TIRED
rehash of super-commercial 70s/80s metal...

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To: HYPERLINK "mailto:gathering at misera.net"gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:57:21 +1300
Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

Agreed, labels aren’t totally worthless but they aren’t profound metaphors
to any large extent, or the experience of the things they describe. And good
bands transcend labels.

 

Except AC / DC ;)

 

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Labels labels labels.

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Mar 16, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Brendan Quinn wrote:

 

Yeah I remember one of the members of SG saying that Johnny told them
Soundgarden were the reason the Ramones got back together or something, but
it ain’t bragging if it’s true. If you want I can try to find that
reference
the Ramones link was something I only found out very recently, so
it’s not something I think they really promoted hard out or anything
I’m
personally not that into the Ramones. But SG to me were always rock, you
could call some of it prog rock I’m sure (Head Down etc). Punk, metal, they
are just offshoots of rock really innit?

 

You might be more into Hater or Wellwater Conspiracy, Soundgarden side
projects. Both pretty different to Soundgarden, Hater has elements of
garage, surfer music, 50s rock, all sorts, quite a crack up at times.

 

Hater, Ben Shepherd singing:

 

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The last track on that album is called Sad McBain, it’s a take the piss out
of McBain, quite a laugh :-)

 

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Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

 

I guess I thought they claimed to be punk b/c they alsways take photos w/
the Ramones, etc. 
As for punk JUXTAPOSED w/bluegrass--that i love. My goal when I retire from
teaching is to start a band that does just that--sort of like Jason and the
Scorchers w/a banjo. BTW, Tommy Ramone currently plays in a straight-ahead
bluegrass group, and says in interviews he likes both types of music.



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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:44:28 +0000
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk"ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:gathering at misera.net"gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

Well, when you're not filtering your creativity through prejudices, there's
absolutely no reason

why ANYTHING can't be done, let alone mixing punk & bluegrass, or whatever.
That's how Punk

came abput in the first place, surely? Oh, sorry, I forgot free expression
is a crime in the Punk Bible.

Not at first, but the 'fans' soon changed that  ;)

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Subject: Re: [kj] Soundgarden

When did they claim to be the new punk
I think you’ve got your lines crossed
on that one. This is one of their few forays into the punk ethic:

 

HYPERLINK "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qEETTedSz0"
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Ben Shepherd who wrote the above song, the bassist, was more into the punk
side of things. He defended mixing hillbilly and punk on this track as a
completely natural thing to do because of the energy of the music, nothing
to do with genres at all. Most of the comments I’ve read from them mention
staying away from being pigeon holed into any genre at all. If you want I
can forward you a link to a site with dozens of articles and intereviews
from their whole career, a bit of an irrational domain, but with more (all
lyrics, tab, articles, discography etc etc
quite an amazing site).

 

To me they share with Killing Joke a certain darkness and intensity, their
lyrics both deal with personal demons, politics, philosophy etc.

 

I can see how some people would find Cornell a bit screamy, esp early on.

 


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Subject: [kj] Soundgarden

 

I despise Soundgarden (esp. the Led Zep/JudASS Priest vocals), but i
listened to that song "Nothing to Say" or whatever that was just posted, and
I did hear a rather Geordie-esque guitar part...I guess that's why the site
the Joke as an influence (don't they?). I still don't get why they always
claimed to b the new punk though...


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