[kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ "documentary"

[Alexander Smith]

"Jaz Coleman is NOT KJ,"

There it is, right there. The power of KJ -- for me, at least -- lies  
the efforts of the collective.

I'll certainly want to see/buy this video, but I'm *REALLY, REALLY,  
REALLY* hoping it's not -- RETURN TO OUTSIDE THE GATE!

ALex in NYC



On Jun 12, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Bette Dillinger wrote:


> My only issue is that Mr Coleman speaks as if he is a true sage,  

> when that would be impossible just based on the amount of time he  

> has spent with KJ and other projects.  Thus, he makes the occult  

> seem even more obscure instead of showing that it is the beautiful  

> silk robe underneath the hairshirt, and that certain practices are  

> required.  Do you feel Coleman had/has the patience to engage in  

> these rituals?

>

> Or instead does he film himself looking like a Knight Templar for  

> "shock value" and to maybe look believable to a very naive eye?

>

> It is evident to me that the "practice whatever works for you"  

> comment is an attempt to make amends for all of his elitist jargon  

> in the past (this and that country sucks yadda yadda yadda, I tried  

> to kill Big Paul in another life, the 26 of February is the most  

> sacred date in the calendar).  He wants to spruce up that island :)

>

> Obviously, this has nothing to do with KJ, and that is why I am  

> perturbed.  Jaz Coleman is NOT KJ, and I would feel I would probably  

> learn more from Youth......;).

> But that doesn't mean I won't be buying a copy of this  

> video.........LOL

>

> -Bette

>

>

> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:11:48 +1200

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ  

> "documentary"

> >

> > Oh come on...of all the belief systems out there, this one strikes  

> me as one

> > of the least negative and...well look at all the enjoyment we get  

> out of The

> > Joke on a daily basis. They are SO unlike any other band, well  

> something

> > must have been different in the mix yeah?

> >

> > Jaz is quoted on the XXV DVD as saying, can't remember his exact  

> words, but

> > basically...whatever you believe in, if it works for you, I'm all  

> for it.

> > That's an opinion I personally don't share, but I will say this  

> much, if

> > more religious people had that view, there would and would HAVE  

> been a lot

> > less war and oppression.

> >

> > I'm fascinated by the historical elements of the occult / esoteric,

> > examining the root meanings and origins of particular words  

> whether they are

> > Greek, Hebrew, Latin etc, as well as the rituals and beliefs of our

> > ancestors before they were cannibalised by others for mass  

> control...there's

> > also the element of mind experiments where you perform rituals and  

> actively

> > try to modify your own software, re-wire your belief system,  

> thereby gaining

> > a better understanding of your previous and current limitations,  

> how much

> > input your nervous system outright blocks due to pre-conceived  

> notions

> > etc...

> >

> > Like Yoga...diminishing it down to something like 'trying to  

> achieve alpha

> > or beta or whatever brain waves or a trance-like state'...I don't  

> think it

> > does it justice. As the Tao says...the menu is not the meal. Words  

> attempt

> > to describe something but they are not actually that thing. That  

> was Robert

> > Anton Wilson's core message...impugning him with a holier than  

> thou attitude

> > might make you sound authoritative to some...but how about actually

> > experiencing it, with an open mind, THEN writing your report?

> >

> > I can say from personal experience, growing up being hard-wired to  

> believe

> > in Catholicism...to me it's a crock of shit. And I earned the  

> right to say

> > that, the hard way.

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On

> > Behalf Of ade

> > Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 1:06 a.m.

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ

> > "documentary"

> > Importance: High

> >

> > Well, I finally scanned through that pile of shite, sorry, I mean  

> blog entry

> > from Jaz. The whole quest seems to be about this:

> >

> > " Geordie said to me (off camera) that they (the Band) had got very

> > close to the 'White heat'.

> > We were talking about the 'White Heat Theory' and Gemetria Science

> > that Killing Joke use

> > to work out the length of songs that are likely to be a hit.

> >

> > We talked with Jimmy Page (led Zep) about this and he also mentioned

> > this process... So

> > some of the most successfully Bands had experienced a vibrational

> > hypnotic state whilst

> > playing – Why? And what happens when this state occurs?

> >

> > It became clearer when we finished filming the first part of the  

> story

> > – that you open trans-

> > dimensional gates to the planet's cosmic harmonic energy."

> >

> > So essentially, we're talking about musicians & this ' vibrational  

> hypnotic

> > state whilst playing'. Well, I'm afraid they've looked too far, as  

> they

> > could probably get a better answer from a nuerosurgeon, or anyone  

> that knows

> > about the brains' different 'modes' or 'trance states' as they're  

> more

> > commonly referred to. I've certainly felt this, though I've never  

> thought it

> > mystical, but it's common enough for me to recognise it & think  

> "is this

> > what all the fuss is about?" I see it as a mode & basically when  

> playing, if

> > it happens, well that's a result. It's pretty much that point at  

> which you

> > totally forget what you're doing & go into auto-pilot. The trick  

> is to not

> > panic & start over-thinking again! THAT's when the mistakes creep  

> in. Just

> > something as simple as playing along to Communion, getting into it  

> & then

> > the strings kicking in can start to take you 'up'.

> >

> > I'm sure ALL OF YOU have experienced this when listening, going to  

> gigs,

> > etc. You might as well ask "why does good music give me  

> goosepimples?" but

> > of course, that doesn't *quite* sound as dark/mystical as some  

> Gemetria

> > bollocks.

> >

> > I've never thought of it as "opening trans-dimensional gates to  

> the planets'

> > cosmic harmonic energy", because that sounds like bollocks. We  

> tend to look

> > OUTSIDE for answers to the inner questions, but the reality is  

> that we have

> > much more to learn about our brains & bodies. I can only guess  

> that a lot of

> > this mystical tat is pre-science attempts to explain these  

> phenomena, but as

> > can be seen again & again, we'd rather jump to the conclusions of  

> outside

> > influences/g0ds, than internal chemistry.

> >

> > Anyone ever felt a 'rush'? Wow, that's not a burst of chemicals,  

> that's g0d

> > filling your cavity, or whatever. Sad sad sad...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ]On

> > Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

> > Sent: 12 June 2008 11:22

> > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ

> > "documentary"

> >

> >

> > Cheers Olly.

> >

> > I wanna see Tool involved, you couldn't find a musician more into  

> all this

> > stuff than Danny Carey, and you'd also have to look fucking far  

> and wide to

> > find a more badass drummer, as Frank put it...

> >

> > The only band I can think of that could match Killing Joke for

> > occultishness...a cursory search of Tool sites will provide days  

> worth of

> > reading about that aspect...so, get your cursors out...

> >

> > And I can't wait to see what's up with the guy called Tony Assassin.

> >

> > "Last call for Tony Assassin...boarding call for TONY ASSASSIN"

> >

> > (Held up checking in his luggage...)

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On

> > Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> > Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 6:38 p.m.

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: [kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ  

> "documentary"

> >

> >

> > [There is another blog entry -- an excerpt from Jaz's supposd

> > "2009 book," that discusses all the cosmic parallels and esoteric

> > meanings of Killing Joke symbology, events, all the "weird

> > coincidences" that hint that there are greater, supernatural

> > forces at play in this, uhm, post-punk band's career ... Basically

> > a case of "6 degrees of separation" gone bonkers. - Oliver]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> >

> > http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=379876536&bl

> > ogID=399592573

> >

> >

> >

> > What do the The Giza Pyramids, Iona, Glastonbury Tor, the Nazca

> > lines, Prague, the Occult, Flying Saucers, the earth's magnetic

> > field, nuclear superconductivity, the Knights templar, Jimmy Page

> > from Led Zep, Dave Grohl from the Foo Fighters, Czech Head of the

> > Secret Police, a Franciscan Monk, a man arrested for playing

> > Killing Joke's music, the renowned genealogist Sir Laurence

> > Gardner, author of the controversial bestseller, 'Bloodline of the

> > Holy Grail' and Killing Joke front man & megalomaniac

> > extraordinaire, Jaz Coleman have in common?

> >

> >

> >

> > In short, what the hell is the Death & Resurrection Show?

> >

> >

> >

> > Only the Elohim knows. But hopefully you will find out soon enough.

> >

> >

> >

> > The twenty four-month labour of love has seen my Film Crew track

> > ley lines, fly in a balloon, micro light planes over the giant

> > drawings in Peru and duck machine gun bullets to filming actual

> > white heat induction at a KJ concert.

> >

> >

> >

> > We hung out with inventors of anti gravity machines in New

> > Zealand, Nuclear Superconductor Professors in America, trying to

> > understand the Harmonics of Light and conducted an interview on

> > the possible evidence of unusual hybrid alien – human mummified

> > remains in Egypt.

> >

> >

> >

> > It sounds like a complicated web. And if you throw a stone, you'll

> > hit a conspiracist.

> >

> >

> >

> > 'Attention to detail! Attention to detail!' was the clear

> > instruction from Jaz Coleman

> >

> >

> > (Now the Reverend Jaz Coleman Esq.) when we talked about making

> > this film.

> >

> >

> >

> > I had to regularly ask myself, for my own sanity and peace... How

> > do you approach a project like this in a systematic way? A simple

> > script evolving every day and 400 hours of footage later – in the

> > end we just kept the cameras rolling sucking in the blood and

> > annihilation of Reverend Coleman's prophetic words of fear from

> > the Elohim's wrath of Nature gone mad.

> >

> >

> >

> > Geordie said to me (off camera) that they (the Band) had got very

> > close to the 'White heat'. We were talking about the 'White Heat

> > Theory' and Gemetria Science that Killing Joke use to work out the

> > length of songs that are likely to be a hit.

> >

> >

> >

> > We talked with Jimmy Page (led Zep) about this and he also

> > mentioned this process... So some of the most successfully Bands

> > had experienced a vibrational hypnotic state whilst playing – Why?

> > And what happens when this state occurs?

> >

> >

> >

> > It became clearer when we finished filming the first part of the

> > story – that you open trans-dimensional gates to the planet's

> > cosmic harmonic energy.

> >

> >

> > And why do you do this? Mainly to understand our own fatality but

> > more importantly it should seed the idea that as the human race we

> > need to get our house in order and cleanses the earth of the

> > corrupt and fear mongers.

> >

> >

> >

> > As the Reverend Coleman puts it, "We will all be judged and

> > purified in the age of the water bearer, in the Millennium."

> >

> >

> >

> > What do I feel now..? Blooded but the act is done.

> >

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