[kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ "documentary"

[Bette Dillinger]

My only issue is that Mr Coleman speaks as if he is a true sage, when that would be impossible just based on the amount of time he has spent with KJ and other projects.  Thus, he makes the occult seem even more obscure instead of showing that it is the beautiful silk robe underneath the hairshirt, and that certain practices are required.  Do you feel Coleman had/has the patience to engage in these rituals?  
 
Or instead does he film himself looking like a Knight Templar for "shock value" and to maybe look believable to a very naive eye?  
 
It is evident to me that the "practice whatever works for you" comment is an attempt to make amends for all of his elitist jargon in the past (this and that country sucks yadda yadda yadda, I tried to kill Big Paul in another life, the 26 of February is the most sacred date in the calendar).  He wants to spruce up that island :)
 
Obviously, this has nothing to do with KJ, and that is why I am perturbed.  Jaz Coleman is NOT KJ, and I would feel I would probably learn more from Youth......;).   
But that doesn't mean I won't be buying a copy of this video.........LOL
 
-Bette

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:11:48 +1200> Subject: Re: [kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ "documentary"> > Oh come on...of all the belief systems out there, this one strikes me as one> of the least negative and...well look at all the enjoyment we get out of The> Joke on a daily basis. They are SO unlike any other band, well something> must have been different in the mix yeah?> > Jaz is quoted on the XXV DVD as saying, can't remember his exact words, but> basically...whatever you believe in, if it works for you, I'm all for it.> That's an opinion I personally don't share, but I will say this much, if> more religious people had that view, there would and would HAVE been a lot> less war and oppression.> > I'm fascinated by the historical elements of the occult / esoteric,> examining the root meanings and origins of particular words whether they are> Greek, Hebrew, Latin etc, as well as the rituals and beliefs of our> ancestors before they were cannibalised by others for mass control...there's> also the element of mind experiments where you perform rituals and actively> try to modify your own software, re-wire your belief system, thereby gaining> a better understanding of your previous and current limitations, how much> input your nervous system outright blocks due to pre-conceived notions> etc...> > Like Yoga...diminishing it down to something like 'trying to achieve alpha> or beta or whatever brain waves or a trance-like state'...I don't think it> does it justice. As the Tao says...the menu is not the meal. Words attempt> to describe something but they are not actually that thing. That was Robert> Anton Wilson's core message...impugning him with a holier than thou attitude> might make you sound authoritative to some...but how about actually> experiencing it, with an open mind, THEN writing your report? > > I can say from personal experience, growing up being hard-wired to believe> in Catholicism...to me it's a crock of shit. And I earned the right to say> that, the hard way.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of ade> Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 1:06 a.m.> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ> "documentary"> Importance: High> > Well, I finally scanned through that pile of shite, sorry, I mean blog entry> from Jaz. The whole quest seems to be about this:> > " Geordie said to me (off camera) that they (the Band) had got very> close to the 'White heat'.> We were talking about the 'White Heat Theory' and Gemetria Science> that Killing Joke use> to work out the length of songs that are likely to be a hit.> > We talked with Jimmy Page (led Zep) about this and he also mentioned> this process... So> some of the most successfully Bands had experienced a vibrational> hypnotic state whilst> playing – Why? And what happens when this state occurs?> > It became clearer when we finished filming the first part of the story> – that you open trans-> dimensional gates to the planet's cosmic harmonic energy."> > So essentially, we're talking about musicians & this ' vibrational hypnotic> state whilst playing'. Well, I'm afraid they've looked too far, as they> could probably get a better answer from a nuerosurgeon, or anyone that knows> about the brains' different 'modes' or 'trance states' as they're more> commonly referred to. I've certainly felt this, though I've never thought it> mystical, but it's common enough for me to recognise it & think "is this> what all the fuss is about?" I see it as a mode & basically when playing, if> it happens, well that's a result. It's pretty much that point at which you> totally forget what you're doing & go into auto-pilot. The trick is to not> panic & start over-thinking again! THAT's when the mistakes creep in. Just> something as simple as playing along to Communion, getting into it & then> the strings kicking in can start to take you 'up'.> > I'm sure ALL OF YOU have experienced this when listening, going to gigs,> etc. You might as well ask "why does good music give me goosepimples?" but> of course, that doesn't *quite* sound as dark/mystical as some Gemetria> bollocks.> > I've never thought of it as "opening trans-dimensional gates to the planets'> cosmic harmonic energy", because that sounds like bollocks. We tend to look> OUTSIDE for answers to the inner questions, but the reality is that we have> much more to learn about our brains & bodies. I can only guess that a lot of> this mystical tat is pre-science attempts to explain these phenomena, but as> can be seen again & again, we'd rather jump to the conclusions of outside> influences/g0ds, than internal chemistry.> > Anyone ever felt a 'rush'? Wow, that's not a burst of chemicals, that's g0d> filling your cavity, or whatever. Sad sad sad...> > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On> Behalf Of Brendan Quinn> Sent: 12 June 2008 11:22> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> Subject: Re: [kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ> "documentary"> > > Cheers Olly.> > I wanna see Tool involved, you couldn't find a musician more into all this> stuff than Danny Carey, and you'd also have to look fucking far and wide to> find a more badass drummer, as Frank put it...> > The only band I can think of that could match Killing Joke for> occultishness...a cursory search of Tool sites will provide days worth of> reading about that aspect...so, get your cursors out...> > And I can't wait to see what's up with the guy called Tony Assassin.> > "Last call for Tony Assassin...boarding call for TONY ASSASSIN"> > (Held up checking in his luggage...)> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 6:38 p.m.> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: [kj] Blog entry at that new MySpace page of the KJ "documentary"> > > [There is another blog entry -- an excerpt from Jaz's supposd> "2009 book," that discusses all the cosmic parallels and esoteric> meanings of Killing Joke symbology, events, all the "weird> coincidences" that hint that there are greater, supernatural> forces at play in this, uhm, post-punk band's career ... Basically> a case of "6 degrees of separation" gone bonkers. - Oliver]> > > > > > From:> > http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=379876536&bl> ogID=399592573> > > > What do the The Giza Pyramids, Iona, Glastonbury Tor, the Nazca> lines, Prague, the Occult, Flying Saucers, the earth's magnetic> field, nuclear superconductivity, the Knights templar, Jimmy Page> from Led Zep, Dave Grohl from the Foo Fighters, Czech Head of the> Secret Police, a Franciscan Monk, a man arrested for playing> Killing Joke's music, the renowned genealogist Sir Laurence> Gardner, author of the controversial bestseller, 'Bloodline of the> Holy Grail' and Killing Joke front man & megalomaniac> extraordinaire, Jaz Coleman have in common?> > > > In short, what the hell is the Death & Resurrection Show?> > > > Only the Elohim knows. But hopefully you will find out soon enough.> > > > The twenty four-month labour of love has seen my Film Crew track> ley lines, fly in a balloon, micro light planes over the giant> drawings in Peru and duck machine gun bullets to filming actual> white heat induction at a KJ concert.> > > > We hung out with inventors of anti gravity machines in New> Zealand, Nuclear Superconductor Professors in America, trying to> understand the Harmonics of Light and conducted an interview on> the possible evidence of unusual hybrid alien – human mummified> remains in Egypt.> > > > It sounds like a complicated web. And if you throw a stone, you'll> hit a conspiracist.> > > > 'Attention to detail! Attention to detail!' was the clear> instruction from Jaz Coleman> > > (Now the Reverend Jaz Coleman Esq.) when we talked about making> this film.> > > > I had to regularly ask myself, for my own sanity and peace... How> do you approach a project like this in a systematic way? A simple> script evolving every day and 400 hours of footage later – in the> end we just kept the cameras rolling sucking in the blood and> annihilation of Reverend Coleman's prophetic words of fear from> the Elohim's wrath of Nature gone mad.> > > > Geordie said to me (off camera) that they (the Band) had got very> close to the 'White heat'. We were talking about the 'White Heat> Theory' and Gemetria Science that Killing Joke use to work out the> length of songs that are likely to be a hit.> > > > We talked with Jimmy Page (led Zep) about this and he also> mentioned this process... So some of the most successfully Bands> had experienced a vibrational hypnotic state whilst playing – Why?> And what happens when this state occurs?> > > > It became clearer when we finished filming the first part of the> story – that you open trans-dimensional gates to the planet's> cosmic harmonic energy.> > > And why do you do this? Mainly to understand our own fatality but> more importantly it should seed the idea that as the human race we> need to get our house in order and cleanses the earth of the> corrupt and fear mongers.> > > > As the Reverend Coleman puts it, "We will all be judged and> purified in the age of the water bearer, in the Millennium."> > > > What do I feel now..? Blooded but the act is done.> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1498 - Release Date: 11/06/2008> 7:13 p.m.> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1498 - Release Date: 11/06/2008> 7:13 p.m.> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1500 - Release Date: 12/06/2008> 4:58 p.m.> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1500 - Release Date: 12/06/2008> 4:58 p.m.> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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