[kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

[Mik]

At last! Someone with true taste. Should have known I cud rely on you Jon.
Lol

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of jon chapman
Sent: 24 January 2008 21:58
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

 

it doesnt matter who were first,the brits PISSED ALL OVER THE YANKS - big
time!!

myspace.com/jokerjonchapman
 
 


> From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:52:40 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

> 

> Exactly the point I was trying to get across. I once had someone tell me

the

> kinks were the first punk band. Its just a matter of what you personally

> consider to be punk

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

On

> Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> Sent: 24 January 2008 21:26

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

> 

> Iggy, Dead Boys, MC5 all originally from Midwest. MC5 = "Motor City 5." 

> "Motor City" = Detroit, not NYC.

> 

> But, yes, this is an endleslly contentious debate, and a lot of it 

> depends on when you want to arbitrarily say punk began. I know a lot of 

> historians/writers/critics say 1975, which I think is about right, 

> everything else ebing even (which it isn't). There are people who will 

> say Carl Perkins and Johnny Cash were "punk" in 1950s, and the Punk 365 

> opens with Roky Erickson and the 13th Floor Elevators (Austin, TX) and 

> other '66 garage bands, etc., but this is all because the term "punk" 

> has become so elastic as to be applied to almost anything.

> 

> -Oliver

> 

> 

> Mik wrote:

> >

> > Guess it all depends on your own personal definition of punk and how 

> > far back you want to go to try to prove a point.

> >

> > 

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *melinda grant

> > *Sent:* 24 January 2008 12:27

> > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

> >

> > 

> >

> > talking of which,saw a great prog on bbc4 last night all about the"new 

> > york punk scene" feated new york dolls--who have been going since the 

> > early 70s-1972 they started up along with lou reed,iggy,mc5,alice 

> > cooper...these people are responsable for really starting the roots of 

> > punk----it was malcolm mcclaren,who after having seen the--new york 

> > dolls perform at cbgbc in 74--took the concept back to u.k and got the 

> > sex pistols together in 75 ;0

> > 

> > /1974/5..debby harry,patti smith,televiosion

> > talking heads,deadboys,were also considered early punk scene as well 

> > in new york,they also hungout and performed regularly at cbgbs....

> > 

> > so who started punk? sorry mick it was the newyork scene

> > 

> > who put a very rough and almost dangerious edge to punk---u.k sex 

> > pistols plus a small handfull of other bands at the time, some of 

> > which sprung out from a group of punks known as"the bromly contingent" 

> > the rest hung out with them and the pistols--they generally 

> > performed(when they could) at 100 club/marquee/screen on the 

> > green/dingwalls/the nastvill--all hung out at"sex"(later known 

> > as--saditionarys!) mcmlarens/viv westwood alternative clothes 

> > shop,along worldend part of the kings road--london!!

> > 

> > milinda ps lesson over;D))),now hand in your papers for me to mark ;P

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:18:59 +0000

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!

> >

> > 

> >

> > > Ah UK Punk....gotta love it.

> >

> > 

> >

> > Come on Alex, after all the arguments we have had over the years? Lol

> >

> > 

> >

> > Mik

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *Alexander Smith

> > *Sent:* 24 January 2008 01:01

> > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!

> >

> > 

> >

> > 

> >

> > Alex in NYC's Favorite Vibrators songs in no particular order:

> >

> > 

> >

> > 1) "Dragnet" (off the PUNK & DISORDERLY compilation)

> >

> > 2) "Into the Future" (first track off PURE MANIA)

> >

> > 3) "Troops of Tomorrow" -- for birthing his second-fave track by the 

> > Exploited (the first being "Daily News").

> >

> > 

> >

> > Ah UK Punk....gotta love it.

> >

> > 

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> > 

> >

> > 

> >

> > On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:32 PM, folk devil wrote:

> >

> > 

> >

> > Troops of tomorrow ;)

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com <mailto:hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>

> > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:00:47 +0000

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!

> >

> > thought that would get yours attention ;D))))

> > 

> > the vibrators were an ok band,i exspecially like the track"the youth 

> > of tomorrow" it had the most amaizing build up--starting very quietly 

> > then building into a crescendo of throbbing bass/drums and drony 

> > voices-7um,really like it--dont have it any longer,perhaps some kind 

> > folk can upload it to the list,so everyone can hear this semi-marval 

> > of pinks bygone days ;D!!!

> > 

> > milinda

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:26:47 -0800

> > From: joker at Z6.com <mailto:joker at Z6.com>

> > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!

> >

> > The very same!

> >

> >

> >

> > www.iamscuzzy.com 

> > <http://www.iamscuzzy.com/> www.myspace.com/scuzzywear 

> > <http://www.myspace.com/scuzzywear>

> >

> > --- folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com <mailto:folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com 

> > <mailto:folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>>

> > To: <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!

> > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:04:16 -0800

> >

> > Is that the same Ellis that was in the vibrators?

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:05:10 -0800

> > From: joker at Z6.com <mailto:joker at Z6.com>

> > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!

> >

> > That article was spot on Greg!

> >

> > Summed it up completely, though I must admit to you that I really 

> > liked 10!

> >

> > The thing with Stanglers post Cornwell was that John Ellis just did 

> > not work as a guitarist and it was rather evident that JJ was going 

> > with the flow for a lot of it. Ellis' guitar was very bluse based and 

> > rather staid.

> >

> >

> 

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