[kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

[Alexander Smith]

I've said it before -- I prefer British Punk to NYC Punk....

...but NYC Punk still came first.

Alex in NYC


On Jan 24, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Mik wrote:


>

> At last! Someone with true taste. Should have known I cud rely on  

> you Jon. Lol

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On Behalf Of jon chapman

> Sent: 24 January 2008 21:58

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

>

> it doesnt matter who were first,the brits PISSED ALL OVER THE YANKS  

> - big time!!

> myspace.com/jokerjonchapman

>

>

>

> > From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:52:40 +0000

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

> >

> > Exactly the point I was trying to get across. I once had someone  

> tell me the

> > kinks were the first punk band. Its just a matter of what you  

> personally

> > consider to be punk

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On

> > Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> > Sent: 24 January 2008 21:26

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

> >

> > Iggy, Dead Boys, MC5 all originally from Midwest. MC5 = "Motor  

> City 5."

> > "Motor City" = Detroit, not NYC.

> >

> > But, yes, this is an endleslly contentious debate, and a lot of it

> > depends on when you want to arbitrarily say punk began. I know a  

> lot of

> > historians/writers/critics say 1975, which I think is about right,

> > everything else ebing even (which it isn't). There are people who  

> will

> > say Carl Perkins and Johnny Cash were "punk" in 1950s, and the  

> Punk 365

> > opens with Roky Erickson and the 13th Floor Elevators (Austin, TX)  

> and

> > other '66 garage bands, etc., but this is all because the term  

> "punk"

> > has become so elastic as to be applied to almost anything.

> >

> > -Oliver

> >

> >

> > Mik wrote:

> > >

> > > Guess it all depends on your own personal definition of punk and  

> how

> > > far back you want to go to try to prove a point.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net

> > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *melinda grant

> > > *Sent:* 24 January 2008 12:27

> > > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > > *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > talking of which,saw a great prog on bbc4 last night all about  

> the"new

> > > york punk scene" feated new york dolls--who have been going  

> since the

> > > early 70s-1972 they started up along with lou reed,iggy,mc5,alice

> > > cooper...these people are responsable for really starting the  

> roots of

> > > punk----it was malcolm mcclaren,who after having seen the--new  

> york

> > > dolls perform at cbgbc in 74--took the concept back to u.k and  

> got the

> > > sex pistols together in 75 ;0

> > >

> > > /1974/5..debby harry,patti smith,televiosion

> > > talking heads,deadboys,were also considered early punk scene as  

> well

> > > in new york,they also hungout and performed regularly at cbgbs....

> > >

> > > so who started punk? sorry mick it was the newyork scene

> > >

> > > who put a very rough and almost dangerious edge to punk---u.k sex

> > > pistols plus a small handfull of other bands at the time, some of

> > > which sprung out from a group of punks known as"the bromly  

> contingent"

> > > the rest hung out with them and the pistols--they generally

> > > performed(when they could) at 100 club/marquee/screen on the

> > > green/dingwalls/the nastvill--all hung out at"sex"(later known

> > > as--saditionarys!) mcmlarens/viv westwood alternative clothes

> > > shop,along worldend part of the kings road--london!!

> > >

> > > milinda ps lesson over;D))),now hand in your papers for me to  

> mark ;P

> > >

> > >  

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk

> > > To: gathering at misera.net

> > > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:18:59 +0000

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Ah UK Punk....gotta love it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Come on Alex, after all the arguments we have had over the  

> years? Lol

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mik

> > >

> > >  

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net

> > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *Alexander  

> Smith

> > > *Sent:* 24 January 2008 01:01

> > > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > > *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Alex in NYC's Favorite Vibrators songs in no particular order:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 1) "Dragnet" (off the PUNK & DISORDERLY compilation)

> > >

> > > 2) "Into the Future" (first track off PURE MANIA)

> > >

> > > 3) "Troops of Tomorrow" -- for birthing his second-fave track by  

> the

> > > Exploited (the first being "Daily News").

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ah UK Punk....gotta love it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Alex in NYC

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:32 PM, folk devil wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Troops of tomorrow ;)

> > >

> > >  

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com <mailto:hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>

> > > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> > > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:00:47 +0000

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!

> > >

> > > thought that would get yours attention ;D))))

> > >

> > > the vibrators were an ok band,i exspecially like the track"the  

> youth

> > > of tomorrow" it had the most amaizing build up--starting very  

> quietly

> > > then building into a crescendo of throbbing bass/drums and drony

> > > voices-7um,really like it--dont have it any longer,perhaps some  

> kind

> > > folk can upload it to the list,so everyone can hear this semi- 

> marval

> > > of pinks bygone days ;D!!!

> > >

> > > milinda

> > >

> > >  

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:26:47 -0800

> > > From: joker at Z6.com <mailto:joker at Z6.com>

> > > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!

> > >

> > > The very same!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > www.iamscuzzy.com

> > > <http://www.iamscuzzy.com/> www.myspace.com/scuzzywear

> > > <http://www.myspace.com/scuzzywear>

> > >

> > > --- folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com <mailto:folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>  

> wrote:

> > >

> > > From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com

> > > <mailto:folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>>

> > > To: <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!

> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:04:16 -0800

> > >

> > > Is that the same Ellis that was in the vibrators?

> > >

> > >  

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:05:10 -0800

> > > From: joker at Z6.com <mailto:joker at Z6.com>

> > > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> > > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!

> > >

> > > That article was spot on Greg!

> > >

> > > Summed it up completely, though I must admit to you that I really

> > > liked 10!

> > >

> > > The thing with Stanglers post Cornwell was that John Ellis just  

> did

> > > not work as a guitarist and it was rather evident that JJ was  

> going

> > > with the flow for a lot of it. Ellis' guitar was very bluse  

> based and

> > > rather staid.

> > >

> > >

> >

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