[kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)

[jon chapman]

it doesnt matter who were first,the brits PISSED ALL OVER THE YANKS - big time!!
myspace.com/jokerjonchapman   > From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:52:40 +0000> Subject: Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)> > Exactly the point I was trying to get across. I once had someone tell me the> kinks were the first punk band. Its just a matter of what you personally> consider to be punk> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard> Sent: 24 January 2008 21:26> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)> > Iggy, Dead Boys, MC5 all originally from Midwest. MC5 = "Motor City 5." > "Motor City" = Detroit, not NYC.> > But, yes, this is an endleslly contentious debate, and a lot of it > depends on when you want to arbitrarily say punk began. I know a lot of > historians/writers/critics say 1975, which I think is about right, > everything else ebing even (which it isn't). There are people who will > say Carl Perkins and Johnny Cash were "punk" in 1950s, and the Punk 365 > opens with Roky Erickson and the 13th Floor Elevators (Austin, TX) and > other '66 garage bands, etc., but this is all because the term "punk" > has become so elastic as to be applied to almost anything.> > -Oliver> > > Mik wrote:> >> > Guess it all depends on your own personal definition of punk and how > > far back you want to go to try to prove a point.> >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *melinda grant> > *Sent:* 24 January 2008 12:27> > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot new york hadfirst punks,sorry mik ;)> >> > > >> > talking of which,saw a great prog on bbc4 last night all about the"new > > york punk scene" feated new york dolls--who have been going since the > > early 70s-1972 they started up along with lou reed,iggy,mc5,alice > > cooper...these people are responsable for really starting the roots of > > punk----it was malcolm mcclaren,who after having seen the--new york > > dolls perform at cbgbc in 74--took the concept back to u.k and got the > > sex pistols together in 75 ;0> > > > /1974/5..debby harry,patti smith,televiosion> > talking heads,deadboys,were also considered early punk scene as well > > in new york,they also hungout and performed regularly at cbgbs....> > > > so who started punk? sorry mick it was the newyork scene> > > > who put a very rough and almost dangerious edge to punk---u.k sex > > pistols plus a small handfull of other bands at the time, some of > > which sprung out from a group of punks known as"the bromly contingent" > > the rest hung out with them and the pistols--they generally > > performed(when they could) at 100 club/marquee/screen on the > > green/dingwalls/the nastvill--all hung out at"sex"(later known > > as--saditionarys!) mcmlarens/viv westwood alternative clothes > > shop,along worldend part of the kings road--london!!> > > > milinda ps lesson over;D))),now hand in your papers for me to mark ;P> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > From: mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk> > To: gathering at misera.net> > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:18:59 +0000> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!> >> > > >> > > Ah UK Punk....gotta love it.> >> > > >> > Come on Alex, after all the arguments we have had over the years? Lol> >> > > >> > Mik> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *Alexander Smith> > *Sent:* 24 January 2008 01:01> > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > *Subject:* Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!> >> > > >> > > >> > Alex in NYC's Favorite Vibrators songs in no particular order:> >> > > >> > 1) "Dragnet" (off the PUNK & DISORDERLY compilation)> >> > 2) "Into the Future" (first track off PURE MANIA)> >> > 3) "Troops of Tomorrow" -- for birthing his second-fave track by the > > Exploited (the first being "Daily News").> >> > > >> > Ah UK Punk....gotta love it.> >> > > >> > Alex in NYC> >> > > >> > > >> > On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:32 PM, folk devil wrote:> >> > > >> > Troops of tomorrow ;)> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com <mailto:hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>> > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>> > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:00:47 +0000> > Subject: Re: [kj] ot vibrators!!> >> > thought that would get yours attention ;D))))> > > > the vibrators were an ok band,i exspecially like the track"the youth > > of tomorrow" it had the most amaizing build up--starting very quietly > > then building into a crescendo of throbbing bass/drums and drony > > voices-7um,really like it--dont have it any longer,perhaps some kind > > folk can upload it to the list,so everyone can hear this semi-marval > > of pinks bygone days ;D!!!> > > > milinda> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:26:47 -0800> > From: joker at Z6.com <mailto:joker at Z6.com>> > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>> > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!> >> > The very same!> >> >> >> > www.iamscuzzy.com > > <http://www.iamscuzzy.com/> www.myspace.com/scuzzywear > > <http://www.myspace.com/scuzzywear>> >> > --- folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com <mailto:folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> > From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com > > <mailto:folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>>> > To: <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!> > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:04:16 -0800> >> > Is that the same Ellis that was in the vibrators?> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:05:10 -0800> > From: joker at Z6.com <mailto:joker at Z6.com>> > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>> > Subject: Re: [kj] is: Stranglers was: You Tube!> >> > That article was spot on Greg!> >> > Summed it up completely, though I must admit to you that I really > > liked 10!> >> > The thing with Stanglers post Cornwell was that John Ellis just did > > not work as a guitarist and it was rather evident that JJ was going > > with the flow for a lot of it. Ellis' guitar was very bluse based and > > rather staid.> >> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1241 - Release Date: 1/24/2008> 9:58 AM> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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