[kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 19 17:50:41 EDT 2008


And they have a jew guy making whiteface with
white paste and a straw wig for straw hair: who can I sue?

... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things]

'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
   I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'  

--- On Mon, 8/18/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net <cliffmonka at alaska.net> wrote:

From: cliffmonka at alaska.net <cliffmonka at alaska.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:36 AM

not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they
consulted
the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities.
Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter
cowards
these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff



> Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self

> obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down

to

> the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to

think

> about themselves?

>

> I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that

they

> are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their

use

> of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they

are.

>

> Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more

> publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release.

>

>

> 2008/8/18 <cliffmonka at alaska.net>

>

>> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the

protest

>> boycotting

>> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff

>>

>> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261

>>

>> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html

>>

>>

>> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html

>> >

>> >

>> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver...

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny*

>> >> By Timothy Shriver

>> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15

>> >>

>> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film

"Tropic

>> Thunder,"

>> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been

given the

>> chance

>> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it

and read

>> excerpts = of

>> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on

the =

>> humanity of

>> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to =

dignity, hope

>> and

>> >> respect.

>> >>

>> >> Consider this exchange:

>> >>

>> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I

was doing Jack when

>> = I

>> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded."

>> >>

>> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah.

Damn."

>> >>

>> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free

myself up to

>> believe

>> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb."

>> >>

>> >> Downey: "To be a moron."

>> >>

>> >> Stiller: "Yeah."

>> >>

>> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with

intellectual

>> disabilities,<=

>> >> BR>they say:

>> >>

>> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?"

>> >>

>> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full

retard."

>> >>

>> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?"

>> >>

>> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain

Man,' look = retarded, act

>> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. =

Autistic,

>> sure. Not

>> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, =

yes. Retarded,

>> maybe.

>> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and

won a

>> ping-pong

>> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard,

man. Never go

>> full

>> >> retard."

>> >>

>> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this

topic. I know

>> about

>> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are

equal-opportunity

>> offenders.

>> >>

>> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the

equal-opportunity

>> offenders:

>> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused,

neglected,=

>> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world.

Their =

>> parents

>> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless.

Schools = turn

>> them

>> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire

= them. None of

>> this

>> >> is funny.

>> >>

>> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most

basic

>> spiritual

>> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of

reflecting the

>> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people

with

>> intellectual

>> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them?

Hopeless.

>> >>

>> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are

about overcoming

>> >> division, our social movements = are about ending

intolerance, our great

>> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among

the world's

>> poor.

>> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the

mainstream of

>> >> these movements? For the = most part, no.

>> >>

>> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't =

fit on magazine

>> covers.

>> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help =

television. Their kind of

>> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best

of the spirit

>> never

>> >> does.)

>> >>

>> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people

don't realize whom

>> they

>> >> are making fun of when = they use the word

"retard." Most people just

>> think

>> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard."

Ha, ha, ha.

>> >>

>> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean

isn't

>> funny.

>> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with

intellectual

>> disabilities

>> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten.

I've heard

>> doctors

>> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that

more than 60

>> percent of

>> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual

disability at their

>> >> child's = school.

>> >>

>> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who

= cry over

>> being

>> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from =

people who are

>> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the =

terror of being

>> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated.

>> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African

Americans for a

>> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human

beings are

>> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting.

>> >>

>> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as

to create a

>> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The

studio has since

>> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an

age of edgy,

>> >> R-rated = comedies.

>> >>

>> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children =

about

>> language

>> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your =

educators, your

>> religious

>> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people

with

>> intellectual

>> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the

right side of

>> >> dignity.

>> >>

>> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of

our lives and

>> our

>> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and

humiliating

>> others is

>> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide.

>> >>

>> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist

for

>> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.*

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>> It's received mostly good reviews:

>> >>>

>> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder

>> >>>

>> >>> That's a great website, btw.

>> >>>

>> >>> -Oliver

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>> folk devil wrote:

>> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war'

films...and a haha to bang

>> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo..

>> >>>>

>> >>>> /"/

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>>

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>> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700

>> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

>> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet?

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>> >>>>

>> >>>> /*[looking at the current state of things]*/

>> >>>>

>> >>>> 'Save me...

>> >>>> save me from Tomorrow..

>> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of

Fools...!' /

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

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