[kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder

[The Exorcist]

Go ask the damned Jew lawyer. He'll sniff it out for sure!

At 05:50 PM 8/19/2008, sade1 wrote:

>And they have a jew guy making whiteface with

>white paste and a straw wig for straw hair: who can I sue?

>... ... ... ... ... ...

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>[looking at the current state of things]

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>'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

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>--- On Mon, 8/18/08, cliffmonka at alaska.net <cliffmonka at alaska.net> wrote:

>From: cliffmonka at alaska.net <cliffmonka at alaska.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

>Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 2:36 AM

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>not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they

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>consulted

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>the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities.

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>Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter

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>cowards

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>these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff

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> > Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self

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> > obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down

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>to

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> > the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to

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>think

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> > about themselves?

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> >

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> > I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that

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>they

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> > are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their

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>use

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> > of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they

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>are.

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> >

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> > Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more

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> > publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release.

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> >

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> > 2008/8/18 <cliffmonka at alaska.net>

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> >> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the

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>protest

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> >> boycotting

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> >> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff

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> >>

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> >> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261

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> >> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html

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> >>

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> >>

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> >> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html

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> >> >

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> >> >

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> >> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver...

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> >> >>

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> >> >>

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> >> >>

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> >> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny*

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> >> >> By Timothy Shriver

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> >> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15

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> >> >>

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> >> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film

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>"Tropic

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> >> Thunder,"

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> >> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been

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>given the

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> >> chance

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> >> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it

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>and read

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> >> excerpts = of

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> >> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on

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>the =

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> >> humanity of

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> >> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to =

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>dignity, hope

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> >> and

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> >> >> respect.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Consider this exchange:

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I

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>was doing Jack when

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> >> = I

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> >> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded."

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah.

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>Damn."

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free

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>myself up to

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> >> believe

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> >> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb."

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Downey: "To be a moron."

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Stiller: "Yeah."

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> >> >>

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> >> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with

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>intellectual

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> >> disabilities,<=

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> >> >> BR>they say:

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?"

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full

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>retard."

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?"

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain

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>Man,' look = retarded, act

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> >> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. =

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>Autistic,

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> >> sure. Not

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> >> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, =

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>yes. Retarded,

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> >> maybe.

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> >> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and

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>won a

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> >> ping-pong

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> >> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard,

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>man. Never go

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> >> full

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> >> >> retard."

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> >> >>

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> >> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this

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>topic. I know

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> >> about

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> >> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are

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>equal-opportunity

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> >> offenders.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the

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>equal-opportunity

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> >> offenders:

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> >> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused,

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>neglected,=

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> >> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world.

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>Their =

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> >> parents

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> >> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless.

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>Schools = turn

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> >> them

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> >> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire

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>= them. None of

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> >> this

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> >> >> is funny.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most

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>basic

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> >> spiritual

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> >> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of

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>reflecting the

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> >> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people

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>with

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> >> intellectual

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> >> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them?

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>Hopeless.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are

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>about overcoming

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> >> >> division, our social movements = are about ending

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>intolerance, our great

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> >> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among

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>the world's

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> >> poor.

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> >> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the

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>mainstream of

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> >> >> these movements? For the = most part, no.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't =

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>fit on magazine

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> >> covers.

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> >> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help =

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>television. Their kind of

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> >> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best

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>of the spirit

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> >> never

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> >> >> does.)

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> >> >>

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> >> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people

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>don't realize whom

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> >> they

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> >> >> are making fun of when = they use the word

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>"retard." Most people just

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> >> think

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> >> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard."

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>Ha, ha, ha.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean

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>isn't

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> >> funny.

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> >> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with

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>intellectual

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> >> disabilities

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> >> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten.

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>I've heard

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> >> doctors

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> >> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that

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>more than 60

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> >> percent of

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> >> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual

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>disability at their

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> >> >> child's = school.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who

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>= cry over

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> >> being

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> >> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from =

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>people who are

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> >> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the =

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>terror of being

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> >> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated.

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> >> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African

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>Americans for a

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> >> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human

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>beings are

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> >> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as

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>to create a

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> >> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The

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>studio has since

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> >> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an

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>age of edgy,

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> >> >> R-rated = comedies.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children =

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>about

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> >> language

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> >> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your =

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>educators, your

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> >> religious

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> >> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people

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>with

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> >> intellectual

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> >> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the

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>right side of

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> >> >> dignity.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of

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>our lives and

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> >> our

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> >> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and

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>humiliating

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> >> others is

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> >> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide.

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> >> >>

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> >> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist

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>for

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> >> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.*

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> >> >>

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> >> >>

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> >> >>> It's received mostly good reviews:

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> >> >>>

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> >> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder

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> >> >>>

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> >> >>> That's a great website, btw.

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> >> >>>

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> >> >>> -Oliver

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> >> >>>

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> >> >>>

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> >> >>> folk devil wrote:

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> >> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war'

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>films...and a haha to bang

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> >> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo..

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> >> >>>>

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> >> >>>> /"/

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> >> >>>>

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> >> >>>>

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> >>

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> >> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700

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> >> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

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> >> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net

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> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder

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> >> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet?

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