[kj] OT: Pop Music Rant

[melinda grant]

good well presented reply alex ;-)

first of all,i have never owned anything from or by"mariah carey yuk" do us 
a favour hay ;-D))),she is indeed or her music,is lower than low,someone 
cranking up her music to well over tolerance levels you said,someone should 
of wripped the knob off the player ;-D)))

dont know who said that dry comment about queen,i think personally that they 
have some real good tracks amongst there back catalogue,bohemian 
rasperdy--we will rock you-we are the champions-show must go on--/to mame a 
few,i like very much ;-)

but i have to draw the line with--tears for fears---just dont appeal to 
me,in the same way that the police do not appeal to me,having said that,i 
was talked into seeing them last night at twickenham-
--completely unplanned last minute invite--yeah sting ect pulled it off,they 
were good,but i was bord made a good effert of hinding that fact,for the 
sake of the people i was with,who kindly invited me along to gig  ;-D)))))) 
as generally there music just does not do it for me  ;-/

melinda



>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: [kj]  OT: Pop Music Rant

>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:55:30 -0400

>

>>ps i dont care --like what you like even if its bad taste   ;- D)))))  go 

>>on then,i exspect you to find someone who i like,who you  consider bad 

>>taste  ;o thats ok i am prepaired ;))

>

>I look at it this way.

>

>There's good music and there's bad music -- and then there's fuckin'  crap.

>

>Tears for Fears, as far as I'm concerned, made some great pop music  -- no 

>more, no less.  Not life-defining stuff, but certainly among  the best of 

>its kind. I'd never smack someone across the face because  they said 

>something bad about them, but I'll never shy away from  admitting my fandom 

>for their fist two albums either. "Pale Shelter"  and "Change" are amazing 

>pop singles, and combined acted as   veritable soundtrack to my adolescence 

>(along with lots of otherwise  lamentable heavy metal and hardcore).

>

>The other day, I can't remember who said it, but someone described  Queen 

>as "music made by people who hate music" or "music for people  who hate 

>music." I'm sorry, but that's just a ton of shit. Even a  casual listen to 

>a Queen record reveals a rich love of what they were  doing (and if you 

>can't hear the consummate musicianship in what they  were doing, you should 

>probably go have your ears examined). I'm not  saying you have to *LIKE* 

>Queen's music, I'm just saying that to  decry it as such is to do them an 

>undue disservice.

>

>Conversely, the other weekend, I was out at my sister's place on Long  

>Island, and one of her neighbors just over the hedge was positively *  B L 

>A S T I N G* "Emotions" by Mariah Carey. I was incredulous. I  can't 

>imagine anyone actually wanting to play -- let alone CRANK AT  MAXIMUM 

>VOLUME -- Mariah Carey. I wouldn't play Mariah Carey's music  at a dog. I 

>can't imagine anyone actually enjoying listening to that  fat cow's 

>cloyingly melismatic braying. But they do.

>

>  I used to have these arguments all the time at MTV News. I'd open  my big 

>mouth about someone - be it Kanye or Britney or Fall Out Boy  or ______ 

>[insert flavor of the minute pop tripe here], and someone  would turn 

>around and say: "but Alex, they sold x million copies of  the record in the 

>first week!!"

>

>Big fuckin' whoop. Sales mean absolutely nothing. The majority of the  

>record buying public likes an artist? Big deal -- the majority are  sheep 

>who dutifully purchase that which they are instructed to  purchase. Sales 

>are no indication of quality.

>

>

>As Mel says, like what you like -- taste is all relative. I try to  live by 

>that myself, but ultimately fail. While I'll defend loads of  my "guilty 

>pleasure" artists to the death, I still get completely  flabbergasted when 

>I hear someone earnestly extol the merits of an  "artist" I don't approve 

>of (i.e. if you own a Mariah Carey album by  choice, you're dead to me).

>

>Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>On Sep 10, 2007, at 12:45 PM, melinda grant wrote:

>

>>THERE ALL CRAP-       -come on  alex arnt you the exspert ;),i  exspect 

>>better from you,every body wants to rule the world--one of  the most 

>>lamest lines ive ever herd,and as 4 the tune ;-  AND THE  YOU MENTION THAT 

>>FAT GEEK=who wears heart shaped specs and a pink  suite,then all of a 

>>sudden everything has reached a new level of  low bad taste if thats 

>>possible ;- D))))))    .................................................

>>

>>ps i dont care --like what you like even if its bad taste   ;- D)))))  go 

>>on then,i exspect you to find someone who i like,who you  consider bad 

>>taste  ;o thats ok i am prepaired ;))

>>

>>

>>>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the  

>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"  

>>><gathering at misera.net>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] 10.29 KJ Re-issue?

>>>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:31:35 -0400

>>>

>>>

>>>First two Tears for Fears records are great. Third one (SEWING  THE  

>>>SEEDS...)? Not so much. Title track sounded like Elton John  farting  his 

>>>way through "I Am The Walrus." But THE HURTING is  fucking great.

>>>

>>>Sue me.

>>>

>>>Alex in NYC

>>>

>>>

>>>On Sep 10, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Janean Lancaster wrote:

>>>

>>>><<< I have zero cred by now anyways, but I reckon Tears for Fears

>>well

>>>>put it this way, I was so uninitiated into decent music that   Shout 

>>>>was, to me, at the time (disclaimer disclaimer I know),  quite  a 

>>>>powerful song. Still is.>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Those words could have come from my head.  That song is still in  my  

>>>>top 5.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Cheers,

>>>>

>>>>Janean

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-  

>>>>bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

>>>>Sent: 09 September 2007 08:30

>>>>To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] 10.29 KJ Re-issue?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>I have zero cred by now anyways, but I reckon Tears for Fears

>>well  put it

>>>>this way, I was so uninitiated into decent music that Shout  was,  to 

>>>>me, at the time (disclaimer disclaimer I know), quite a   powerful song. 

>>>>Still is.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Disturbed cover it, badly, and totally as you would expect,  metal  by 

>>>>numbers.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-  

>>>>bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Leigh Newton

>>>>Sent: Sunday, 9 September 2007 2:00 p.m.

>>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] 10.29 KJ Re-issue?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Tears For Fears - Songs From The Big Chair

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Best album ever. No irony or sarcasm involved in that last  statement.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Leigh

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>----- Original Message ----

>>>>From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

>>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)   

>>>><gathering at misera.net>

>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2007 2:29:34 AM

>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] 10.29 KJ Re-issue?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>I don't think BTATS can be salvaged with ANY remixing--it's a  New  

>>>>Romantic, top-40 wanna be, synth-pop, Frankie Goes To  Hollywood/ Thomas 

>>>>Dolby/Killamanjaro/Dephie Mode/Tears for Fears/ Spandau  

>>>>Ballet/ABC/Simply Red/Gary Newman/Soft Cell (well, maybe  that's too  

>>>>low a blow) DISASTER...

>>>> > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:17:11 -0700

>>>> > From: sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com

>>>> > To: joker at Z6.com; gathering at misera.net

>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] 10.29 KJ Re-issue?

>>>> >

>>>> > Now THAT'S some excellent news!

>>>> > --- Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com> wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > ---------------------------------

>>>> >

>>>> > That's what I heard the other day..............

>>>> >

>>>> > www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear

>>>> >

>>>> > --- halsted at ilm.com wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> > From: Michael Halsted <halsted at ilm.com>

>>>> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>>> > <gathering at misera.net>

>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] 10.29 KJ Re-issue?

>>>> > Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:15:22 -0700

>>>> >

>>>> > I wonder if BTATS is going to be the "Geordie remixed

>>>> > with heavier guitars version" that's been mentioned or

>>>> >

>>>> > a standard remasster...

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > killingjoke.jp wrote:

>>>> > Outside the Gate [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED]

>>>> > [IMPORT]

>>>> > http://www.amazon.com/Outside-Gate-Killing-Joke/dp/B000VLJHNY/

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > No Info.

>>>> > http://www.killingjoke.com/

>>>> > http://www.killingjokeremasters.com/

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > 2007/9/7, death wish < dwish2000 at hotmail.com>: Looks

>>>> > like Fire Dances is up there too, but curiously no

>>>> > Night Time.

>>>> > http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2622583

>>>> >

>>>> > T.

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > >From: killingjoke.jp < killingjoke.jp at gmail.com>

>>>> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>>> > >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>>> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>>> > band!)"

>>>> > ><gathering at misera.net>

>>>> > >Subject: [kj] 10.29 KJ Re-issue?

>>>> > >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 06:21:49 +0900

>>>> > >

>>>> > >Killing Joke - Brighter Than A Thousand Suns - HMV

>>>> > >http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2621230

>>>> > >Catalogue Number: KJRE7

>>>> > >

>>>> > >Killing Joke - Outside The Gate - HMV

>>>> > > http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2621231

>>>> > >Catalogue Number: KJRE8

>>>> > >

>>>> > >Remasters?

>>>> > >

>>>> > >

>>>> > >No Info.

>>>> > >http://www.killingjoke.com/

>>>> > > http://www.killingjokeremasters.com/

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

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