[kj] FW: About those new Killing Joke shirts..

[B. Oliver Sheppard]

Melinda, well, we're getting a litte off topic, but, yes, I have looked 
into making my own Killing Joke shirts.

For example, I made my own black long sleeve Joy Division shirt at 
Cafepress.com. It arrived, and boy did the fit suck. I ordered an Adult 
Medium. It came on a Hanes Beefy T -- thick cotton, and the wrists had 
elastic, shrink to fit cuffs at the wrists that I really didn't like. 
Even though it was a medium, it was large and billowy on me, so now I 
use it as a shirt to sleep in, never to wear outside. Another company 
like Fruit of the Loom, however, I find that their Adult Medium shirts 
are not so big and fit just a little better, especially if it is a 
cotton/poly blend, which I prefer. In fact, often I order Adult Small 
because that ends up fitting just the way I like. This is all in 
'American sizes," whatever that means.

It gets even more complicated when I order shirts from Europe, though. 
They might print something on neither Hanes or Fruit of the Loom, so I 
have no idea if their "adult small" will be super small and skin tight 
(since a "small" in the US might take into account we're a nation of 
obese people and thus make adult small sizes larger here), or if the 
medium would be too large a billowy, which I don't like, either. I am 
pretty picky. Even moreso when over $100 USD is on the online for 
something I can't try on beforehand and would have to wait weeks for.

So, in short, I have tried printing a long sleeve shirt from CafePress 
and I really didn't like the fit, and can't recommend it to others. 
Coffee mugs, maybe, but not shirts. Even though the well-muscled and 
toned up model they have at their site looks just absolutely fabulous in 
their apparel, for me it was more like getting a big baggy night shirt.


-Oliver





Melinda wrote:

     so you have given up the idear of making your own from another 
graffic,the one we spoke about awhile back? its always those hidden 
little extras,like shipping charges that really p.....us all of/its like 
buy this dvd player for instance,its a really good price,when you add 
the cover charge for parts replacement--extra 50 quid or so all of a 
sudden,its not such a bargain after all--if you want it,just get it. 

> what if they dont fit/the shirt--you said..................

>  

> just get the biggest size i suppose/ ex  large,how big are you anyway? 

> theres usually ex small/small/medium/large/ex large--dont you go into 

> any of the last three catorgorys listed?

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