[kj] Killing joke and Communism

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Tue Aug 21 17:15:03 EDT 2007


The popular media would have you believe that the political spectrum is
two dimensional, but while I'm sure it has its uses, is ultimately pretty
hampering, for example Libertarians don't fit in properly at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

PS: Jaz voted once for the GREEN party in NZ, so you're talking pretty
left...they have a pot smoking rastafarian MP. He reckons that's the only
time he has voted, I've got about the same voting history, voted twice and
both times for the greenies as well as legalise cannabis / Labour (we get
MP and party votes)


> I like the Killng Joke hammer & sickle logo. I'm pretty sure Alex is

> right that it is an ultimately meaningless thing, a kind of punk-era

> playing with ideological symbols of the past to be provocative -- the

> Sex Pistols wore swastikas, they did also wear commie symbols (and not

> just in the Alex Cox movie) while bands like Durruti Column were named

> after an anarchist band, and Crass of course employed the crossed-out

> cross and circle-A, though, dammit, they were serious. Punk started all

> that "let;s use provocative political symbols to get a rise out of

> people" stuff.

>

> A few years ago there was a trend of army green messenger bags with red

> stars on them, or black shirts with a big red star on the, probably

> intended to invoke associations w/ communism and/or anarcho-syndicalism.

> Of these are all made by capitalist outfitters. It's one of those

> punk-started things that percolated up into mass market conusmerist

> culture.

>

> Jaz's political statements have been so wild and varied over the years I

> dunno where to consistently place him on any scale.

>

> They also used Nazis saluting a pope! One of my fave band-appropriated

> images ever used. :)

>

> -Oliver

>

>

> Frank Frik wrote:

>> And perhaps British labour goverment wouldn't be offended...lnew

>> labour from communists is not that far....swastica defended/and do

>> the ''conservationist democrat centrist right wing. partys''.

>>

>> */Mister Black <ssssssssss at fsmail.net>/* wrote:

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