[kj] Revelations

[woody2shooz]

Apologies if this come across the wrong way
Killing Joke are not a political movement
they have used everything from the swastika, hammer  & scythe and the 
clown in their cover art...which do you choose to align yourself to?
answers on a postcard to someone else

B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> I like the Killng Joke hammer & sickle logo. I'm pretty sure Alex is 

> right that it is an ultimately meaningless thing, a kind of punk-era 

> playing with ideological symbols of the past to be provocative -- the 

> Sex Pistols wore swastikas, they did also wear commie symbols (and not 

> just in the Alex Cox movie) while bands like Durruti Column were named 

> after an anarchist band, and Crass of course employed the crossed-out 

> cross and circle-A, though, dammit, they were serious. Punk started 

> all that "let;s use provocative political symbols to get a rise out of 

> people" stuff.

>

> A few years ago there was a trend of army green messenger bags with 

> red stars on them, or black shirts with a big red star on the, 

> probably intended to invoke associations w/ communism and/or 

> anarcho-syndicalism. Of these are all made by capitalist outfitters. 

> It's one of those punk-started things that percolated up into mass 

> market conusmerist culture.

>

> Jaz's political statements have been so wild and varied over the years 

> I dunno where to consistently place him on any scale.

>

> They also used Nazis saluting a pope! One of my fave band-appropriated 

> images ever used. :)

>

> -Oliver

>

>

> Frank Frik wrote:

>> And perhaps British labour goverment wouldn't be offended...lnew 

>> labour from communists is not that far....swastica defended/and do  

>> the ''conservationist democrat centrist right wing. partys''.

>> */Mister Black <ssssssssss at fsmail.net>/* wrote:

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