[kj] atkins & budgie - a drummer's view

Jiri unspeakable at sbcglobal.net
Fri Mar 31 17:53:41 EST 2006


Ahhhh, refreshing! Really enjoying this thread -- drum and guitar and 
music talk, all of it.

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dammit bleep wrote:

on a positive note regarding Hosannas, I think

I think you hear bits of the harmonics return in the
ascender chord in "The Death and Resurrection Show".
It's not ALL chug-chug. I admit that I started doing a
bit of the eye rolling myself when I heard the chugs
were back in "Hosannas", but, as you said, that must
be what Geordie wants.

Just not what I want. Hense the varying opinions.

-jim
*******


Yeah, I was relieved to hear parts of Geordie's "old" style come back on 
the "Majestic" chorus and I've started to appreciate his notes in the 
title track. But with still so much chug on this album, and upon hearing 
that he did the "Afterburner" remix -- which features the chug looped 
prominently -- I finally realized yes, this really is a sound Geordie 
wants/enjoys/is comfortable with right now. Funny that it's taken me two 
albums to admit it.

Despite this, I'm relatively pleased with the new album vs. my 
expectations -- until the last three songs, anyway. But I can't help 
mourn what might have been with "Walking With Gods" and its victorious 
chorus, if only there had been some strafing Geordie chords bouncing 
around the verses rather than the keyboard-mimicing chug-chug. But as 
you say, it's what he wants, and not what some of us want...and I guess 
it's not my art to f*ck with...

Jiri

dammit bleep wrote:

>on a positive note regarding Hosannas, I think
>  
>
>>Geordie is trying to
>>recapture some of that sound, at least in terms of
>>the playing style - how
>>much it comes across seems compromised by his modern
>>sound. But I guess
>>that's how he wants to sound :) I think his new
>>material is definitely back
>>on-track compared to KJ2k3, even if it's not fully
>>realised yet.
>>    
>>
>
>
>I think you hear bits of the harmonics return in the
>ascender chord in "The Death and Resurrection Show".
>It's not ALL chug-chug. I admit that I started doing a
>bit of the eye rolling myself when I heard the chugs
>were back in "Hosannas", but, as you said, that must
>be what Geordie wants.
>
>Just not what I want. Hense the varying opinions.
>
>-jim
>
>--- ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I really like Geordies sound on that album - still
>>plenty of twang & not the
>>massively compressed overly chug-tastic sound of
>>more recent stuff (scoop
>>them mids). The twang gives the harmonics/open
>>strings a chance to go wild -
>>on a positive note regarding Hosannas, I think
>>Geordie is trying to
>>recapture some of that sound, at least in terms of
>>the playing style - how
>>much it comes across seems compromised by his modern
>>sound. But I guess
>>that's how he wants to sound :) I think his new
>>material is definitely back
>>on-track compared to KJ2k3, even if it's not fully
>>realised yet.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of
>>dammit bleep
>>Sent: 31 March 2006 22:53
>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>Subject: RE: [kj] atkins & budgie - a drummer's view
>>
>>
>>No one instrument on "Extremities" comes through and
>>is produced better on the entire album than Atkins'
>>snare. That goes for guitar, bass, synths or vocals.
>>IMHO (albeit biased to a slight degree), that snare
>>sound is almost as important to "Extremities" as
>>Geordie's guitar.
>>
>>Some tracks don't capture the toms as well as I'd
>>like
>>them to. However, the overall result is a dark,
>>ferocious eruption of a release that, dare I say it,
>>did much to re-solodify the KJ legacy.
>>
>>It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to hear Age of Greed and NOT
>>start air drumming. I've often interrupted dull
>>moments in rehearsals with the intro.
>>
>>It DOES make you wanna play drums.
>>
>>
>>-jim
>>    
>>
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