[kj] atkins & budgie - a drummer's view

god botherer acroastic at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 31 18:05:04 EST 2006


Yes, unusual isn't it? But most welcome. Geordie's guitar resonates more 
with me on both the latest album and on Democracy (curse that lousy 
production) than on KJ2003. KJ2003 could be A.N. Other guitarist in many 
places, and that's not usually the case with Geordie.


>From: Jiri <unspeakable at sbcglobal.net>

>
>Ahhhh, refreshing! Really enjoying this thread -- drum and guitar and music 
>talk, all of it.
>
>*****
>dammit bleep wrote:
>
>on a positive note regarding Hosannas, I think
>
>I think you hear bits of the harmonics return in the
>ascender chord in "The Death and Resurrection Show".
>It's not ALL chug-chug. I admit that I started doing a
>bit of the eye rolling myself when I heard the chugs
>were back in "Hosannas", but, as you said, that must
>be what Geordie wants.
>
>Just not what I want. Hense the varying opinions.
>
>-jim
>*******
>
>
>Yeah, I was relieved to hear parts of Geordie's "old" style come back on 
>the "Majestic" chorus and I've started to appreciate his notes in the title 
>track. But with still so much chug on this album, and upon hearing that he 
>did the "Afterburner" remix -- which features the chug looped prominently 
>-- I finally realized yes, this really is a sound Geordie wants/enjoys/is 
>comfortable with right now. Funny that it's taken me two albums to admit 
>it.
>
>Despite this, I'm relatively pleased with the new album vs. my expectations 
>-- until the last three songs, anyway. But I can't help mourn what might 
>have been with "Walking With Gods" and its victorious chorus, if only there 
>had been some strafing Geordie chords bouncing around the verses rather 
>than the keyboard-mimicing chug-chug. But as you say, it's what he wants, 
>and not what some of us want...and I guess it's not my art to f*ck with...
>
>Jiri
>
>dammit bleep wrote:
>
>>on a positive note regarding Hosannas, I think
>>
>>
>>>Geordie is trying to
>>>recapture some of that sound, at least in terms of
>>>the playing style - how
>>>much it comes across seems compromised by his modern
>>>sound. But I guess
>>>that's how he wants to sound :) I think his new
>>>material is definitely back
>>>on-track compared to KJ2k3, even if it's not fully
>>>realised yet.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>I think you hear bits of the harmonics return in the
>>ascender chord in "The Death and Resurrection Show".
>>It's not ALL chug-chug. I admit that I started doing a
>>bit of the eye rolling myself when I heard the chugs
>>were back in "Hosannas", but, as you said, that must
>>be what Geordie wants.
>>
>>Just not what I want. Hense the varying opinions.
>>
>>-jim
>>
>>--- ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I really like Geordies sound on that album - still
>>>plenty of twang & not the
>>>massively compressed overly chug-tastic sound of
>>>more recent stuff (scoop
>>>them mids). The twang gives the harmonics/open
>>>strings a chance to go wild -
>>>on a positive note regarding Hosannas, I think
>>>Geordie is trying to
>>>recapture some of that sound, at least in terms of
>>>the playing style - how
>>>much it comes across seems compromised by his modern
>>>sound. But I guess
>>>that's how he wants to sound :) I think his new
>>>material is definitely back
>>>on-track compared to KJ2k3, even if it's not fully
>>>realised yet.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of
>>>dammit bleep
>>>Sent: 31 March 2006 22:53
>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>Subject: RE: [kj] atkins & budgie - a drummer's view
>>>
>>>
>>>No one instrument on "Extremities" comes through and
>>>is produced better on the entire album than Atkins'
>>>snare. That goes for guitar, bass, synths or vocals.
>>>IMHO (albeit biased to a slight degree), that snare
>>>sound is almost as important to "Extremities" as
>>>Geordie's guitar.
>>>
>>>Some tracks don't capture the toms as well as I'd
>>>like
>>>them to. However, the overall result is a dark,
>>>ferocious eruption of a release that, dare I say it,
>>>did much to re-solodify the KJ legacy.
>>>
>>>It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to hear Age of Greed and NOT
>>>start air drumming. I've often interrupted dull
>>>moments in rehearsals with the intro.
>>>
>>>It DOES make you wanna play drums.
>>>
>>>
>>>-jim
>>>
>>>


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