[kj] What we Got for X-mas..

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Wed Dec 27 21:01:25 EST 2006



Fair enough, I'll play along..

I got:
- 1 stainless steel wallet (sounds absurd, yes, but actually quite
sleek and cool) from the wife.
- 1 subscription to Time Out New York from the wife.
- 1 stupid black t-shirt that reads: "Manure Occureth" from the sister.
- 1 set of Kiss pint glasses (adorned with album covers) from the
sister (who evidently thinks I'm still in college).
- 1 set of AC/DC pint glassed (same as above), also from the sister.
- 1 "Mr.Rogers" key-chain/voice-box which recites favorite sayings of
the children's television icon from the mother.
- 1 purple and black necktie from the mother-in-law.
- 2 Kobe beef steaks from the brother-in-law.
- 1 quite handsome black'n'purple scarf from the wife.
- 1 book about the legacy of James Bond by an author whose name
escapes me, from the wife.
- 1 book about street art in Berlin from the mother.
- 1 gift card to the Apple Store (as in Apple computers) from the
mother.
- 1 gift certificate to Barnes'n'Noble from the boss.

Nothing to set the world on fire, but certainly not a bad haul, so to
speak.

Alex in NYC


On Dec 27, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Mike Cooper wrote:


> Just come back from my Christmas break and found a big row

> brewing. I was

> wondering what people got for Christmas - is this allowed? Good!

> I got the

> Crass book, the Ian Glasson book on anarcho punk bands and Banksy

> Walls and

> Peace which are all brill. Wot a scoop! To top it all my brother

> got me

> and my 6 year old son a ticket to see the mighty Swindon Town. It

> was his

> first ever game, my late father took me at six - it was a very

> emotional

> experience for me, that I did actually nearly cry. He loved it and we

> fucking won as well - best present I have ever had EVER. Needless

> to say

> the bug is back and god bless Paul Sturrock and Christian (no

> shinpads)

> Roberts!

>

> My other brother got me the Katie Melua or something CD. I ask

> you. I have

> been annoying him with punk rock etc since the late 70's and this was

> clearly my punishment. Anybody want a Kate thingy album before I

> stickon

> ebay (ungrateful sod that I am).

>

> There. Wot did anyone else get?

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "BS Crack" <BSCrack at UltimateEmail.com>

> To: <vassifer at earthlink.net>; <gathering at misera.net>

> Cc: <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:48 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

>

>

>>

>> I personally dislike all the outlandish claims people make after

>> someone

>> died. Claims that bear no resemblance to reality, for example:

>> "but the man's influence extends far and wide beyond simply funk

>> and hip

>> hop (neither of which would've existed without his contributions)"

>> Alex: Do you really believe that had James Brown not entered the

>> music

>> business then funk and hip hop would never have been invented?

>> James Brown

>> had predecessors who influenced him , music is an evolving form and

>> numerous people have contributed to musics evolution. To say that

>> One man

>> is solely responsible for not one, but two genres of music is a huge

>> exaggeration.

>> If James Brown hadnt have been born, then music today would still be

>> exactly the same as it is now.

>> He was just as famous for his dance steps than he was for the

>> music he

>> made. Can anyone sing ten James Brown

>> songs?...........five?.........well

>> apart from his two famous songs, can anyone sing or hum any of his

>> other

>> tunes? Because I certainly cant.

>>

>> "James Brown practically *INVENTED* stage presence"

>> So you are saying that before James Brown there was nt anybody who

>> had any

>> "stage presence"? I cant disagree because I dont know .

>>

>> "And judging James Brown via his cameos in "The Blues Brothers" or

>> "Rocky

>> IV" or whatever is like judging Killing Joke solely by OUTSIDE THE

>> GATE."

>>

>> Well no. James Browns contribution to the Rocky film gave him his

>> only UK

>> Number 1.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --- vassifer at earthlink.net wrote:

>>

>> From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>> <gathering at misera.net>, "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>> band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

>> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:16:31 -0500 (EST)

>>

>>

>> "The only music he influenced was crap..."

>>

>> Sorry, Mik, but this is just a patently ridiculous statement.

>> Again, I'm

>> not saying you have to like James Brown, but the man's influence

>> extends

>> far and wide beyond simply funk and hip hop (neither of which

>> would've

>> existed without his contributions). James Brown practically

>> *INVENTED*

>> stage presence -- Iggy Pop, Robert Plant, Ian McCulloch, Jaz

>> Coleman, Joe

>> Stummer -- none of them can top, let alone touch what James Brown

>> was. He

>> was as crucial a performer/innovator/artist as anyone you can name.

>>

>> This just reminds me of the Beatles conversation we had a couple

>> of weeks

>> ago. I know it seems like a really, punky, iconoclastic thing to

>> say that

>> you don't like James Brown (who was inarguably "punker" than any

>> band you

>> can name -- listen to "Say It Loud, I"m Black & I"m Proud" and

>> consider

>> the context of the times), but to not recognize his influence and

>> contribution just makes you seem a bit narrow, misinformed and,

>> frankly,

>> dim.

>>

>> And judging James Brown via his cameos in "The Blues Brothers" or

>> "Rocky

>> IV" or whatever is like judging Killing Joke solely by OUTSIDE THE

>> GATE.

>>

>> Alex in NYC

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> and he was just a criminal who some people thought

>>>> could sing.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: Mik Raven <mik at corvids.eclipse.co.uk>

>>> Sent: Dec 26, 2006 11:55 AM

>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

>>> <gathering at misera.net>

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

>>>

>>> No I can't hear anything I like whatsoever in his music. Does

>>> that make me

>>> myopic? Guess I'll go find my reading glasses then! :-) Actually,

>>> never

>>> been

>>> a big fan of change either. IMHO not one of the Joke's better

>>> ditties.

>>>

>>> Mik

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-

>>> bounces at misera.net]

>>> On

>>> Behalf Of Stephen Robinson

>>> Sent: 26 December 2006 10:39

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (t

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] R.I.P. James Brown

>>>

>>> You can't hear the power, excitment and simple funk power in his

>>> beats?

>>>

>>> If the only music he influenced was crap, do that mean you think

>>> Change

>>> was

>>> crap?

>>>

>>>> James Brown was shit but the Blues Brothers was quite an

>>>> entertaining

>>>> film. I will not shed a tear for James Brown but dread the endless

>>>> tributes that are bound to follow his death. The only music he

>>>> influenced was crap and he was just a criminal who some people

>>>> thought

>>>> could sing.

>>>>

>>>> Mik

>>> --

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