[kj] Tribal Freedom

[Alexander Smith]

Raise your standards.

Alex in NYC


On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:44 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:


> I personally love Hosannas to death. I saw the electronic press kit

> where they were bragging about the relatively lo-tech way it was

> recorded compared to a lot of bands these days (I guess nu-metal type

> bands). But since my primary love is raw, crusty DIY hardcore punk  

> type

> stuff like Tragedy or Born Dead Icons or World Burns to Death, I  

> thought

> Hosannas sounded spectacular. It's definitely a few levels above low

> budget punk type recordings (in fact quit, a bit so quite the  

> symphonic

> components, etc.) and it seems like Jaz is really exploring the

> Lemmy/Motorhead side of his vocalizations more, which is all the  

> better

> for me. I like it when Killing Joke are harsh, caustic, thrashy, and

> raw, personally.

>

> However, I do think "Total Invasion" and "Seeing Red" from 2003 are  

> two

> of the finest songs KJ have probably ever made, however they did it.

> That is just instant classic stuff.

>

> -Oliver

>

>

>

> Mark Kolmar wrote:

>> On 12/1/06, Darth E. Vader <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>>

>>> I think the idea that overdubbing guitars was somehow

>>> dishonest is the porblem with Hosanannas, as opposed

>>> to all those carping about Jaz' vocals.

>>>

>>> The sound of the 2003 album is better because the

>>> guitars sound more powerful.

>>>

>>

>> The production on _Hosannas_ is raw in a way that detracts slightly

>> from the whole effect, as it sounds large but oddly distant.  I  

>> try to

>> picture how the recording was set up to capture that sound, or if it

>> was done in the mix.  Someone said it sounds like they smeared plate

>> reverb all over it.  Doesn't sound like a plausible room ambience

>> (_Fire Dances_ maybe), or a weird space of dubby alienation (like on

>> _WTF_).  I would rather hear a raw sound that's more close-up.  Maybe

>> mics on each amp, over the drums and in the room, plus vox of course,

>> to get a mix of direct signal and live room.  A bit like they record

>> orchestras.

>>

>> Also the KJ productions from 1994-2003 all sounded a bit hi-tech,

>> which is a contrast that can be a bit jarring.

>>

>> --Mark

>>

>>

>>

>

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