[kj] Tribal Freedom

[B. Oliver Sheppard]

You mean to like Korn or like Christina Aguilera standards?

Hosannas was great. One of the Top 10 LPs of 2006, in any event.

-Oliver


Alexander Smith wrote:

> Raise your standards.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:44 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>

>   

>> I personally love Hosannas to death. I saw the electronic press kit

>> where they were bragging about the relatively lo-tech way it was

>> recorded compared to a lot of bands these days (I guess nu-metal type

>> bands). But since my primary love is raw, crusty DIY hardcore punk  

>> type

>> stuff like Tragedy or Born Dead Icons or World Burns to Death, I  

>> thought

>> Hosannas sounded spectacular. It's definitely a few levels above low

>> budget punk type recordings (in fact quit, a bit so quite the  

>> symphonic

>> components, etc.) and it seems like Jaz is really exploring the

>> Lemmy/Motorhead side of his vocalizations more, which is all the  

>> better

>> for me. I like it when Killing Joke are harsh, caustic, thrashy, and

>> raw, personally.

>>

>> However, I do think "Total Invasion" and "Seeing Red" from 2003 are  

>> two

>> of the finest songs KJ have probably ever made, however they did it.

>> That is just instant classic stuff.

>>

>> -Oliver

>>

>>

>>

>> Mark Kolmar wrote:

>>     

>>> On 12/1/06, Darth E. Vader <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>>>

>>>       

>>>> I think the idea that overdubbing guitars was somehow

>>>> dishonest is the porblem with Hosanannas, as opposed

>>>> to all those carping about Jaz' vocals.

>>>>

>>>> The sound of the 2003 album is better because the

>>>> guitars sound more powerful.

>>>>

>>>>         

>>> The production on _Hosannas_ is raw in a way that detracts slightly

>>> from the whole effect, as it sounds large but oddly distant.  I  

>>> try to

>>> picture how the recording was set up to capture that sound, or if it

>>> was done in the mix.  Someone said it sounds like they smeared plate

>>> reverb all over it.  Doesn't sound like a plausible room ambience

>>> (_Fire Dances_ maybe), or a weird space of dubby alienation (like on

>>> _WTF_).  I would rather hear a raw sound that's more close-up.  Maybe

>>> mics on each amp, over the drums and in the room, plus vox of course,

>>> to get a mix of direct signal and live room.  A bit like they record

>>> orchestras.

>>>

>>> Also the KJ productions from 1994-2003 all sounded a bit hi-tech,

>>> which is a contrast that can be a bit jarring.

>>>

>>> --Mark

>>>

>>>

>>>

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