[kj] World Destruction

[Crack]

   Ok. So we ve established that countries are not always what they  
call themselves. Unites states of America should not be called  
"United" because  Canada is between itself and Alaska , also Hawaii  
has a large sea which separates it from the mainland . I expect that  
Chile is in fact quite warm , New Zealand is infact now quite old and  
due to the amount if alcohol Eastern Europeans drink they should call  
it *Thirsty* instead of Hungary.
    United Kingdom will soon no longer be united as we're getting rid  
of the Scots , all we have to do now is dump the Welsh and we will  
have a country that we can be proud of.


Quoting "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>:


> Crack,

>

> Depends on what you mean by "communist" society. If you mean societies

> that have called themselves communist, like Stalin's USSR, the Khmer

> Rouge, etc., yeah, those regimes suck. But they cynically call

> themselves "communist," in spite of their policies, not because of them.

> Communism, at least as Marx meant it (and wasn't he some authority on

> the matter?), was a classless, stateless society, which would come after

> socialism -- and none of the examples you cited fit this bill. The USSR

> also said they were a union of Republics, and North Korea says it is the

> People's Democratic North Korea -- are either of them republics, or a

> democacy? Of course not. SO why why believe it when they say they're

> communist, then? Seems awfully selective. "North Korea says it is a

> Republic, therefore I hate any and every country that calls itself a

> Republic" -- that makes no sense.

>

> Ruling elites often use nice-sounding words to get people to go along

> with them. Where/when socialist ideology is popular, people call

> themselves "socialist" or "communist" appeal to folks. The National

> Socialist Party of Germany (Nazis) -- that's some socialism, huh? Or the

> People's Republic of China. Yeah, what a republic (representative

> democracy) that is. What countries call themselves may or may not have

> anything to do with what their true nature is. That includes the USA,

> too, which also calls itself a republic. Because, you know, we did some

> free trade capitalistically to get all the land here to ship our

> freely-traded slaves in and such, to build our shining city on the hill,

> etc., etc.

>

> -Oliver

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