[kj] Homework for Robs Arse

Sun May 1 14:49:01 EDT 2005

Now Alex be fair.  The Cocteau Twins BBC session came out (or is I don't 
remember) adnthat could be considered...live.....;)

Alex you are still right and Peter is wrong but that barely matters anymore 
for this tired arguement

Chris

>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
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>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Homework for Robs Arse
>Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:40:59 -0400
>
>
>I am pedantic. I'm also being RIGHT. Unlike you, who are just being  WRONG 
>and TOO STUBBORN and PIG-HEADED to admit it. Moreover, Simon  Raymonde (the 
>third Cocteau Twin) does NOT play on "Song to the Siren",  making it EVEN 
>LESS a song by the Cocteau Twins.
>
>There was no official live Cocteau Twins album, thus any listing on any  
>bootleg is flimsy proof for your already flimsy argument.
>
>How's the search for that mouth diaper coming along?
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
>On Sunday, May 1, 2005, at 07:38 AM, peter.west410 wrote:
>
>>On whole live recordings by the Cocteau Twins,Said song is indeed on  it.
>>It says Cocteau twins live at where-ever and it lists STTS,It doesnt  
>>state
>>CT and, TMC. NO.
>>      Anyway,You are just being pedantic,Because my main point was that  
>>it
>>was written by Tim Buckley.And to try to differentiate between the CT  and
>>TMC is just being picky and shows how desperate you have become.In you  
>>vain
>>attempt to prove that I dont, infact know everything
>>
>>     PW
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 4:13 AM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Homework for Robs Arse
>>
>>
>>>Bootlegs don't count, as they're usually compiled by people who don't
>>>know any better (like yourself).
>>>
>>>Know when you're wrong, Peter.
>>>
>>>Alex in NYC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 08:02 PM, peter.west410 wrote:
>>>
>>>>"That" song is indeed available by the CT on numerous live bootlegs,
>>>>        Which can/could be found at Camden Market
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>Cc: <joker at Z6.com>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 3:15 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Homework for Robs Arse
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>" AND the Cocteau Twins have released that song under their own  name,
>>>>>in compilations."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>no they haven't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Alex in NYC
>>>>>
>>>>>On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 08:30 AM, peter.west410 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>This Mortal Coil are not a band.It was conglomerate of various  people
>>>>>>on the
>>>>>>4AD label.All the songs have> >     So the "song to the siren" song
>>>>>>was released under the project
>>>>>>heading
>>>>>>"This Mortal Coil" but the only people to play on the song were the
>>>>>>Cocteau
>>>>>>Twins.
>>>>>>     So "This Mortal Coil" were like a compilation album but all  
>>>>>>under
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>same heading.
>>>>>>    AND the Cocteau Twins have released that song under their own
>>>>>>name,in
>>>>>>compilations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Rob's Arse" <joker at Z6.com>
>>>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:59 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj]suggs ect/covers/Teflon Pete West
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But Pete, it says that This Mortal Coil CONTAINED members of the
>>>>>>Cocteaus
>>>>>>and others. It is not the Cocteaus. Ya Plank!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hereinafter I believe that you should be known to all as TEFLON  PETE.
>>>>>>Cos
>>>>>>fuck all seems to stick to you my boy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
>>>>>>Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:52:12 +0100
>>>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] suggs ect/ covers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Read this and weep, Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"A cover of a Tim Buckley song, this is I believe the only radio  hit
>>>>>>Cocteau
>>>>>>Twins has had and ironically it is not under their own name! This
>>>>>>Mortal
>>>>>>Coil was a 4AD project, with people from Dead Can Dance, Pixies,
>>>>>>Belly,
>>>>>>Cocteau Twins, and so on. Song to the Siren is thus nothing but
>>>>>>Fraser
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>Guthrie making lovely music under another name. With just vocals  and
>>>>>>guitar
>>>>>>this is more like an ordinary song than anything else they have  done
>>>>>>together in my opinion."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I shall take great pride in the fact that I am more knowledgeable
>>>>>>than
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>Journalist working for a World-wide International news magazine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:57 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] suggs ect/ covers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Get *YOUR* facts right, PW, it's not the Cocteaus -- it's This
>>>>>>>Mortal
>>>>>>>Coil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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