[kj] Homework for Robs Arse

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Sun May 1 17:21:30 EDT 2005


BBC Sessions by the Cocteau Twins -- live in the studio. Okay, I'll  
give you that.

Alex in NYC


On Sunday, May 1, 2005, at 02:49 PM, Christof hamille wrote:

> Now Alex be fair.  The Cocteau Twins BBC session came out (or is I  
> don't remember) adnthat could be considered...live.....;)
>
> Alex you are still right and Peter is wrong but that barely matters  
> anymore for this tired arguement
>
> Chris
>
>> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"  
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"  
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Homework for Robs Arse
>> Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:40:59 -0400
>>
>>
>> I am pedantic. I'm also being RIGHT. Unlike you, who are just being   
>> WRONG and TOO STUBBORN and PIG-HEADED to admit it. Moreover, Simon   
>> Raymonde (the third Cocteau Twin) does NOT play on "Song to the  
>> Siren",  making it EVEN LESS a song by the Cocteau Twins.
>>
>> There was no official live Cocteau Twins album, thus any listing on  
>> any  bootleg is flimsy proof for your already flimsy argument.
>>
>> How's the search for that mouth diaper coming along?
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 1, 2005, at 07:38 AM, peter.west410 wrote:
>>
>>> On whole live recordings by the Cocteau Twins,Said song is indeed on  
>>>  it.
>>> It says Cocteau twins live at where-ever and it lists STTS,It doesnt  
>>>  state
>>> CT and, TMC. NO.
>>>      Anyway,You are just being pedantic,Because my main point was  
>>> that  it
>>> was written by Tim Buckley.And to try to differentiate between the  
>>> CT  and
>>> TMC is just being picky and shows how desperate you have become.In  
>>> you  vain
>>> attempt to prove that I dont, infact know everything
>>>
>>>     PW
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 4:13 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Homework for Robs Arse
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bootlegs don't count, as they're usually compiled by people who  
>>>> don't
>>>> know any better (like yourself).
>>>>
>>>> Know when you're wrong, Peter.
>>>>
>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 08:02 PM, peter.west410 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "That" song is indeed available by the CT on numerous live  
>>>>> bootlegs,
>>>>>        Which can/could be found at Camden Market
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>> Cc: <joker at Z6.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 3:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Homework for Robs Arse
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> " AND the Cocteau Twins have released that song under their own   
>>>>>> name,
>>>>>> in compilations."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no they haven't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 08:30 AM, peter.west410 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This Mortal Coil are not a band.It was conglomerate of various   
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> 4AD label.All the songs have> >     So the "song to the siren"  
>>>>>>> song
>>>>>>> was released under the project
>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>> "This Mortal Coil" but the only people to play on the song were  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Cocteau
>>>>>>> Twins.
>>>>>>>     So "This Mortal Coil" were like a compilation album but all   
>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same heading.
>>>>>>>    AND the Cocteau Twins have released that song under their own
>>>>>>> name,in
>>>>>>> compilations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Rob's Arse" <joker at Z6.com>
>>>>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:59 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj]suggs ect/covers/Teflon Pete West
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Pete, it says that This Mortal Coil CONTAINED members of the
>>>>>>> Cocteaus
>>>>>>> and others. It is not the Cocteaus. Ya Plank!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hereinafter I believe that you should be known to all as TEFLON   
>>>>>>> PETE.
>>>>>>> Cos
>>>>>>> fuck all seems to stick to you my boy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:52:12 +0100
>>>>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] suggs ect/ covers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read this and weep, Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A cover of a Tim Buckley song, this is I believe the only radio  
>>>>>>>  hit
>>>>>>> Cocteau
>>>>>>> Twins has had and ironically it is not under their own name! This
>>>>>>> Mortal
>>>>>>> Coil was a 4AD project, with people from Dead Can Dance, Pixies,
>>>>>>> Belly,
>>>>>>> Cocteau Twins, and so on. Song to the Siren is thus nothing but
>>>>>>> Fraser
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Guthrie making lovely music under another name. With just vocals  
>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>> this is more like an ordinary song than anything else they have   
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>> together in my opinion."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I shall take great pride in the fact that I am more knowledgeable
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Journalist working for a World-wide International news magazine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:57 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] suggs ect/ covers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get *YOUR* facts right, PW, it's not the Cocteaus -- it's This
>>>>>>>> Mortal
>>>>>>>> Coil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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