[kj] bpf

[peter.west410]

And I am sure that it was just coincidental that Mik was shut down a week
before"KJ For beginners " was released...........................

  PW



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From: <bernies at ntlworld.com>
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf


> I think Mik was asked to stop selling his VCDs as part of the general
clampdown they seem to have done.
>
> I very much doubt it was anything to do with any individual member of this
list. Perhaps Mel might consider sueing any contemptable shit stirrers for
defamation.
>
> j
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of bernies at ntlworld.com
> > Sent: 10 March 2005 15:41
> > To: gathering at misera.net
> > Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf
> >
> >
> > No, that's just to do with bootlegging. It's difficult to see how Mik's
> > videos would have affected sales of the legitimate product but let's not
> > start that discussion again!
> > jerry
> > >
> > > From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> > > Date: 2005/03/10 Thu PM 01:20:40 GMT
> > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf
> > >
> > > Cheers for that, j. The business of royalties, et al, has always been
> > > somewhat confusing to me. Now I get the idea behind publishing -
probably
> > > why Mik Raven was asked to stop selling bootleg vids, etc.
> > >
> > > Hmmm...
> > >
> > >
> > > ade.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of bernies at ntlworld.com
> > > Sent: 10 March 2005 10:47
> > > To: gathering at misera.net
> > > Subject: Re: RE: [kj] bpf
> > >
> > >
> > > None of the band probably get any royalties from their first ten years
of
> > > record sales. Any royalties earned are used to pay back advances,
> > recording
> > > and marketing costs before the band sees a penny. KJ's royalty rate,
in
> > > aggregate, is probably no more than 10% of the price the dealer pays
for
> > the
> > > record and I doubt they've recouped what was spent on Outside the
Gate,
> > let
> > > alone the previous six albums.
> > >
> > > I'm pretty sure, however, that they've recouped their publishing deal
with
> > > E'G hence they should all be getting royalties from performances,
cover
> > > versions, etc.
> > >
> > > I don't suppose they'll ever see a penny from Jaz Summers, though.
> > >
> > > Any questions?
> > > j
> > > >
> > > > From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> > > > Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 07:55:53 GMT
> > > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> > > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > > Subject: RE: [kj] bpf
> > > >
> > > > bpfSo... Mike has morals enough to pay C4B royalties to BPF, but is
it
> > the
> > > > case
> > > > that BPF gets no other royalties? For all those groundbreaking
albums he
> > > > played on & that sound he helped create?
> > > >
> > > > Smacks of a lesson learnt from Atkins!!!
> > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > >   From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
> > > > Behalf Of mike coles
> > > >   Sent: 08 March 2005 19:32
> > > >   To: gathering at misera.net
> > > >   Subject: [kj] bpf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   "As for Wardance, I'm sure Big Paul is still getting royalties...:
> > > >
> > > >   No he isn't.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   oh yes he is...
> > > >   from malicious damage records for chaos for breakfast which has
two
> > > > versions of wardance on it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   cheers,
> > > >   colesy
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