[kj] bpf

Thu Mar 10 15:54:12 EST 2005

I don't keep a diary, but KJ would have nothing to do with the release date. 
It was part of a series that all got released at the same time

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From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [kj] bpf

> And I am sure that it was just coincidental that Mik was shut down a week
> before"KJ For beginners " was released...........................
>
>  PW
>
>
>
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> From: <bernies at ntlworld.com>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:44 PM
> Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf
>
>
>> I think Mik was asked to stop selling his VCDs as part of the general
> clampdown they seem to have done.
>>
>> I very much doubt it was anything to do with any individual member of
>> this
> list. Perhaps Mel might consider sueing any contemptable shit stirrers for
> defamation.
>>
>> j
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of bernies at ntlworld.com
>> > Sent: 10 March 2005 15:41
>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>> > Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf
>> >
>> >
>> > No, that's just to do with bootlegging. It's difficult to see how Mik's
>> > videos would have affected sales of the legitimate product but let's
>> > not
>> > start that discussion again!
>> > jerry
>> > >
>> > > From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
>> > > Date: 2005/03/10 Thu PM 01:20:40 GMT
>> > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>> > <gathering at misera.net>
>> > > Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf
>> > >
>> > > Cheers for that, j. The business of royalties, et al, has always been
>> > > somewhat confusing to me. Now I get the idea behind publishing -
> probably
>> > > why Mik Raven was asked to stop selling bootleg vids, etc.
>> > >
>> > > Hmmm...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ade.
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of
>> > > bernies at ntlworld.com
>> > > Sent: 10 March 2005 10:47
>> > > To: gathering at misera.net
>> > > Subject: Re: RE: [kj] bpf
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > None of the band probably get any royalties from their first ten
>> > > years
> of
>> > > record sales. Any royalties earned are used to pay back advances,
>> > recording
>> > > and marketing costs before the band sees a penny. KJ's royalty rate,
> in
>> > > aggregate, is probably no more than 10% of the price the dealer pays
> for
>> > the
>> > > record and I doubt they've recouped what was spent on Outside the
> Gate,
>> > let
>> > > alone the previous six albums.
>> > >
>> > > I'm pretty sure, however, that they've recouped their publishing deal
> with
>> > > E'G hence they should all be getting royalties from performances,
> cover
>> > > versions, etc.
>> > >
>> > > I don't suppose they'll ever see a penny from Jaz Summers, though.
>> > >
>> > > Any questions?
>> > > j
>> > > >
>> > > > From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
>> > > > Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 07:55:53 GMT
>> > > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>> > > <gathering at misera.net>
>> > > > Subject: RE: [kj] bpf
>> > > >
>> > > > bpfSo... Mike has morals enough to pay C4B royalties to BPF, but is
> it
>> > the
>> > > > case
>> > > > that BPF gets no other royalties? For all those groundbreaking
> albums he
>> > > > played on & that sound he helped create?
>> > > >
>> > > > Smacks of a lesson learnt from Atkins!!!
>> > > >   -----Original Message-----
>> > > >   From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>> > > > Behalf Of mike coles
>> > > >   Sent: 08 March 2005 19:32
>> > > >   To: gathering at misera.net
>> > > >   Subject: [kj] bpf
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   "As for Wardance, I'm sure Big Paul is still getting
>> > > > royalties...:
>> > > >
>> > > >   No he isn't.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   oh yes he is...
>> > > >   from malicious damage records for chaos for breakfast which has
> two
>> > > > versions of wardance on it
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   cheers,
>> > > >   colesy
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