[kj] bpf

[ade]

Fair comment matey - sadly I think they made a snap decision 'cos Raven
has seen a few bootlegs for sale, or whatever - I mean, if you're
not going to release that much in the way of live stuff, of course the
bootleggers can fill that niche. It's backwrds & draconic & not really
what I expect from KJ, but oh well... ;)

The value of making copies became apparent to MonkeySoft when they found
that 'everyone' seemed to have a copy of Win95. MS allowed it to happen
as they knew more & more people would be weaned onto the Windows platform
& only after it took hold of the majority of desktops & became the 'norm',
did they start to get baity about copies... because they could. Shame KJ
can't see the value of a bootlegging network in spreading work they'd
never release (hence make a profit from) anyway! Doh!

Formula: you don't give it us > we get it ourselves :)


-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of bernies at ntlworld.com
Sent: 10 March 2005 16:44
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf


I think Mik was asked to stop selling his VCDs as part of the general
clampdown they seem to have done.

I very much doubt it was anything to do with any individual member of this
list. Perhaps Mel might consider sueing any contemptable shit stirrers for
defamation.

j

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of bernies at ntlworld.com
> Sent: 10 March 2005 15:41
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf
>
>
> No, that's just to do with bootlegging. It's difficult to see how Mik's
> videos would have affected sales of the legitimate product but let's not
> start that discussion again!
> jerry
> >
> > From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> > Date: 2005/03/10 Thu PM 01:20:40 GMT
> > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> > Subject: RE: RE: [kj] bpf
> >
> > Cheers for that, j. The business of royalties, et al, has always been
> > somewhat confusing to me. Now I get the idea behind publishing -
probably
> > why Mik Raven was asked to stop selling bootleg vids, etc.
> >
> > Hmmm...
> >
> >
> > ade.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of bernies at ntlworld.com
> > Sent: 10 March 2005 10:47
> > To: gathering at misera.net
> > Subject: Re: RE: [kj] bpf
> >
> >
> > None of the band probably get any royalties from their first ten years
of
> > record sales. Any royalties earned are used to pay back advances,
> recording
> > and marketing costs before the band sees a penny. KJ's royalty rate, in
> > aggregate, is probably no more than 10% of the price the dealer pays for
> the
> > record and I doubt they've recouped what was spent on Outside the Gate,
> let
> > alone the previous six albums.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure, however, that they've recouped their publishing deal
with
> > E'G hence they should all be getting royalties from performances, cover
> > versions, etc.
> >
> > I don't suppose they'll ever see a penny from Jaz Summers, though.
> >
> > Any questions?
> > j
> > >
> > > From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
> > > Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 07:55:53 GMT
> > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > Subject: RE: [kj] bpf
> > >
> > > bpfSo... Mike has morals enough to pay C4B royalties to BPF, but is it
> the
> > > case
> > > that BPF gets no other royalties? For all those groundbreaking albums
he
> > > played on & that sound he helped create?
> > >
> > > Smacks of a lesson learnt from Atkins!!!
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
> > > Behalf Of mike coles
> > >   Sent: 08 March 2005 19:32
> > >   To: gathering at misera.net
> > >   Subject: [kj] bpf
> > >
> > >
> > >   "As for Wardance, I'm sure Big Paul is still getting royalties...:
> > >
> > >   No he isn't.
> > >
> > >
> > >   oh yes he is...
> > >   from malicious damage records for chaos for breakfast which has two
> > > versions of wardance on it
> > >
> > >
> > >   cheers,
> > >   colesy
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