[kj] OT-kentucky zombie terror

[Jim Harper]

I've always been astonished and depressed by the fact that Queen Elizabeth I (first, remember, not the second) banned the use of torture by her secret service because she thought that it provided unreliable information. Four hundred years later and some people still think it's an accurate method of gathering intelligence.
 
Jim.

fatpotanga <fatpotanga at hotmail.com> wrote:
God that’s scary and depressing – the worlds going mad.
So this is this freedom of speech Dubya’s so proud of eh?
Sounds like it’s becoming more of a dictatorship each day.

I read about a TV programme this week where volunteers were subjected to the methods used at Guantánamo Bay (I always get the tune Montego Bay in my head when I hear that) 
Anyway these techniques have been taken from US military manuals.
Sleep deprivation is illegal under international law, but the US military (& no doubt the rest of us) are tweaking definitions to get round its usage.
This is now termed “sleep adjustment’ and if a detainee escapes torture by taking his own life, he is not a suicide victim but guilty of “manipulative self-injurious behaviour”
Also mentions  the Special Removal Unit, a secretive US kidnap team that abducts people suspected of terrorism and hands them over to countries where they will be tortured for information.
One point made that really rung true to me is that “torturers only ever find out what they want to hear”

This isn’t me having a dig at the US – it’d be naive to presume this isn’t going on everywhere and by everyone & has been in various forms since the year dot.
I just found it depressingly interesting.


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